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Toyota to kill Celica, MR2 Spyder

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by BLADDER_MASTER, Jul 16, 2004.

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    Lekz Guest

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    Celica GTS w/ action package = priceless pimp status

    i kno FaisalCorollaS would feel me on this...
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    FaisalCorollaS Guest

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    How much are you talking about?? Acura MDX and Pilot are made in Canada, TL, Accord are made in US, Civic/Acura 1.7EL are made in Canada/US( See a pattern here??, these are all high volume production models). The only one''s coming out of Japan are CRV, RL, RSX and TSX. Eventually TSX will be manufactured out of NA while RSX will be discotinued. These are all low-volume production models. Your claim Toyota charges too much is completely baseless. RSX type S is more expensive than the GT-S. Toyota is cheaper than Accord in every segment. So please know the fact first hand.


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    FaisalCorollaS Guest

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    Yeah, me and my friends went to a Toyota dealership and saw a Celica GT-S action pack in dark grey metallic. They were all drooling over it ;-)

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    If I can post a scan of a window sticker from a 2003 accord built in japan, how much would you like to bet on this?
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    FaisalCorollaS Guest

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    Well, I have never said that there are absolutely no imported models. There might be some, but I can still gaurantee that they are outnumbered by a big proportion. Even some Toyota Camrys roaming around are built in Japan, but most of them are coming out of the plant in the US. Another thing you should know is that cars imported from outside have big federal import taxes slapped on them.
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    On this subject i will post exactly what i posted on TN:

    There have been a few roumers lately that they were going to stop selling the MR2 and Celica in the US in favour of the Volta (which according to Toyota Australia, is looking at being mass produced).. but then again, everyone said there was going to be a MKV Supra... turns out the leaked drawings were just ideas for the Volta...

    Who knows What Toyota is thinking... Maybe they have a preverbial full-house that they are just keeping close to their chests? Maybe the US Market will see the revival of new and better sports cars in the near future?

    In the meantime though, Australians will just have to live with being 1-2 years behind you.. [IMG]
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    EXACTLY. I mean, I'm sad to see Toyota's sports cars go, but neither the MR2 or the Celica were anything special. They were overpriced and underpowered. I hope Toyota figures out a way to get it right, or else they will be selling Camrys and Priuses and other boring-ass cars forever.

    -Master P
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    at the end of the day they could care less if they sell boring ass cars or not. As long as they make money. At least toyota is trying to capture the youth market, but i sure do hate how underpowered the scions are.
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    Who wants to pay near 30 grand for an MR2? Same with a Celica.

    I really don't see a factory installed turbo coming from toyota. People who'd buy one would bitch and moan about lag, mpg, and the octane rating. Its better to have a dealer installed supercharger as an option.

    It took Toyota long enough to get a clue on how to market to younger people and not "everyday people." A price tag of (or possibly more than) 25,000 is unrealistic to say the least. Especially for a vehicle that can't offer as much as its competitors. Toyota quality can't possibly be that expensive.

    It really makes me wonder why a Celica GT is 20k while a tC is 16,7.
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    you're right, totally forgot about the awesome Elise.
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    I think the Volta is a good concept and they just may use it as a basis for an upcoming sports car. They're going hardcore with this hydrid drivetrain so why not offer a sports coupe next.

    I think they should produce it in a low-volume basis so that way theres not so much money to be lost if it tanks.
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    one thing will they still sell the celica in canada... since canada don't hav SCION
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    anybody got a pic of the toyota volta? so now that toyota is taking our mr2 and celica, what are they gonna replace it with?
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    that's their problem, they don't believe in "low-volume basis"...it always has to be mass produced...which is really stupid...they need to learn the word "trial"
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    Both cars are overpiced, underpowered, and uncompetitive in their segments. Shame about the MR2 since it and the Boxster are the only mid-engine, RWD cars in the market below like $100K today IIRC.
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    Actually we have the Elise now. Its MSRP hovers around 40 grand, About 15k more than the MR2 and about that much less than the Porsche. The Elise is a car I don't mind spending all that money on seeing as how its been engineered to the max and performs better if not up-to-par with the Boxster.

    You can also get the other MR Lotus (Esprit) for just short of 100K
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    Actually alot of the problem is dealer mark-up too. Toyota dealers really bump the prices up then add all these options and packages.
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    Wallpaper of the Volta:Click Me!
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    Cuztomrollaz98 MAD VLAD!

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    Finally someone agrees lol. I mean the Celica is close to the $30K mark and I could get an EVO for like 2 more G's man and it has way more goodies than the Celica that's fo zho.
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    Good riddance to the Celica... the thing had become bloated and underpowered, not to mention fugly. The tC is a step in the right direction for Toyota.

    Oh, and the Celica IS canned for sure. There will be no Celicas after the current one. I'm not sure about the MR2. And to the guy that said Toyotas are cheaper than Hondas in every segment, you're out of your mind. A Civic is at least $2000 less than a comparably equipped Corolla.
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    Cuztomrollaz98 MAD VLAD!

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    and I'm pretty sure that civics sell way more than any other Toyota I'm positive about that, at least it seems that way here in CO.
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    yes...civics sell much more than any toyota (except maybe camry), but i was talking about price, not quantity.
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    Cuztomrollaz98 MAD VLAD!

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    well but with low prices u sell right so that proves ur point too lol
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    Lekz Guest

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    stfu man and pick up your damn speed sensor..u still want it?

    anyways...the gts is not unpowered you guys are on crack. With a good driver and an intake they are in the 14s. The GTS and RSX-S are equal in performance and i dont hear the acura ppl bitchin like u guys are. Also if u pay 30k for a celica u deserve it. GTS w/ action package can be talked down to 24 sumtimes 23k which is the price of the rival RSX-S. None of u even own a GTS and few of u have actually driven it so dont knock the car. Its only overpriced if your a lazy bum that doesnt shop around or talk down salesman.
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    none of you know what you are talking about.
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    What the hell are you talking about?? If I ftp you a video of a Celica GT-S (turbo) hitting a quarter mile in 12.38 secs how much will you bet???? Even bone stock, a GT-S hits a quarter mile in 15.3 secs. That is not underpowered.


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    FaisalCorollaS Guest

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    As the saying goes, if you do not know the facts, you will look best when you stay quiet. Corolla outsold Civic both in the US and Canada in the year 2003 and 2004. Corolla''s sales went up 34% while Civic fell 8%. Same thing goes for every other segment ( 4 runner sells more than Pilot, Rav4 is better than CR-V and this year Sienna out classed the Odyssey) , Honda has lost a huge number of sales in the last 2 years since Toyota has been aggressively launching new models. Look it up first.

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    the celica isn't even that impressive of a car, and like everyone else has said, its underpowered and overpirced,a concept toyota cant seem to get away from. maybe the killing of these two models is making room for two models that are sporty, power sufficient, and reasonably for its options. or maybe toyota is giving up because they cant keep with other companies.
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    that's really sad to hear. the 2000+ celica really stands out from the other makes' cars in the same class, as far as the body design and stuff goes. i always wanted to get one cause its such a neat lookin car. but yes, the price is ridiculous.

    i totally don't doubt that sales of the car is minimal. i've seen plenty of 00-02 models around while i'm driving, but rarely ever see anything newer. when i do see them around, they're almost always a GT model instead of the GT-S.

    i know toyota has a level of quality that they have to uphold, and that quality construction is what drives up the price, but if their intentions with the mr2 and the celica were to attract younger buyers, maybe they should've concentrated on keeping the price down to a level of affordability for younger drivers.

    i'll be sad to see them go, but maybe in several years i can find a used one that wont be so friggin expensive. i saw one at the dealership a couple years ago that was used but not very old. it was a gt-s with the trd upgrade package and it was only 19k
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    OH! I FORGOT they came stock with a turbo. not everyone has money to spend on a $2000+ turbo kit in addition to some 20k vehicle.

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