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Engine supercharger or turbo?

Discussion in 'Powertrain' started by Mr_S, May 2, 2005.

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    TRDRider Guest

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    why not stop fucking around and save sum time and money do it all at once
    go 3s-gte
    and get a simple turbo timer if its well set it can go up to 300hp
    simple as that so for 3000$ you get 300hp i think those are good numbers


    but remember droping a 3s-gte or a 3s-ge in a rolla int that easy you need the custom motor mounts and you need a new suspension cause the new motor is way eavier than a 2zz or whatever year your car is so the point is it fuckes with your point of gravity just a litle obstical you have to go tru
    try it out man let me know
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    GSE21tuner Formerly rollatuner110. Representing AZLexus.club

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    How about not swapping anything in it at all and save that money to buy a new car? I'm only keeping my Corolla for gas mileage.
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    falnfenix Well-Known Member

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    indeed.
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    Everyone seems to be going for "more bang for your buck" but i still think superchargers are ideal for a daily driver. First off, they are easy to install and due to the low boost not to harsh on gas. Second, they deliver power as soon as you hit the pedal which is great for the corolla because it'll give lots of throttle response. And finally, the positive displacement (roots) type superchargers have less parts then turbos and will last longer then a turbo and all it's components.

    The initial costs are higher for the little horsepower you get, but if you are looking for a more responsive car while still keeping it within reason a supercharger is the way to go.

    Just gotta find one :p
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    As for daily driving with a turbo, I truely believe you can reduce unnessessary stress on your internals. Proper tunning is key and upscale parts that will last a long time is important. Setting the proper boost for your stock engine and at what rpm the turbo will kick in is key. For example: if the boost is set at 3500 rpm, you be able to change gears just under 3500 rpm during normal daily driving. Then if you need the extra power, you change at a higher rpms. My reason for not buying a new car is simple. Most new performance cars cost about $20,000 or higher, when I'm finish with my corolla I will had overhaul it and it will be a new car with all the performances I want without a car note. I have bought new cars in the past and always pay more at the end. Just remember, if you go turbo, you need to do other upgrades such as: tranny, suspension, exhaust, CAI, ECU, tires, Brakes, fuel injectors, fuel pump, add a intercooler, a possible LSD, to get the most out of your proformance. As I speak, Dr. Tweak is installing a custom Turbo Kit and suspension system. Next year he will rebuilt the the engine and increase the boost. The turbo kit will be adjustable therefore, no need to add or install a new system. The engine swap to a 3s-gte is a very good choice, but you should upgrade the other parts I mention for the best results. This too will be expensive. If you are going to race your corolla, an engine swap to a 3s-gte is the way to go.
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    cgreen38 Common sense, p

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    I agree with crueljaypee. The 3s-gte is a potent engine, and you will need lots of custom parts.
    If you want a supercharger, why not swap in the 4A-GZE?
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    good point but IMO i'd rather a 2.0L any day, i'd settle for a beams 3s-ge and not even do a forced induction setup.
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    cgreen38 Common sense, p

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    WHY? That engine is nice, but it's rare, expensive, and requires a bit of custom work to get it in. More money than it's worth, IMO.
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    i may not know much about corollas but ive read enough about turbos and superchargers to voice my opinion without sounding like a complete retard

    some of you have said that a supercharger is more efficient, but since it runs off a pulley on your motor, then that means its going to hurt your gas milage, true they do run a lower amount of boost than a turbo, but nobody said that you have to go driving around with 20 pounds of boost goin into your engine (whuch i wouldnt suggest for everyday driving anyway)

    in fact if you kept your foot off the floor and traveled in the lower revs the turbo isnt really doing anything, they only way its hurting your gas milage/horsepower is by blocking the exhaust (thats what it runs off of btw)

    and whoever said that putting a turbo on corolla would be a waste of money/time, i agree completely, think about it, its a corolla, gas milage on my car is 32/40 i think, thats awesome (not the best but still...), why would anyone want to give that up for some power that they dont even need
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    TRUE Oh so TRUE
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    falnfenix Well-Known Member

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    a turbo also reduces fuel economy...
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    GSE21tuner Formerly rollatuner110. Representing AZLexus.club

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    Dead issue now. Just leave it as it is and get another car.
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    twin charge . it takes care of turbo lag at low rpm w/ the supercharger , then the turbo takes over at its peak in high rpm.

    think about this question like this :

    the supercharger is belt driven it responds as soon as rpms increase.

    the turbo has to reach operating "pressure" well call it. thus producing turbo lag , it could be 3500-4000 rpms before your turbo spools then you have only 2000 more rpm's to go b4 you have to shift. as where the supercharger is an immediate boost. also , the faster you rev the tighter the sc forces air . the turbo reaches its peak , and then starts to limit the exhaust of the engine , however a corolla will never rev that high , for that to happen.

    all in all . the best long term mod would be the supercharger , considering maintenence , and reliabillity . you could always add a smaller pully to incorp. more boost.
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    lol @ twincharging a Corolla.
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    GSE21tuner Formerly rollatuner110. Representing AZLexus.club

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    In order to twincharge you will have to rebuild the motor. The all aluminum 1ZZFE engine is too weak to handle that. Besides its an open deck design. And its not as structurally strong as an iron block.
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    ^^i was being sarcastic but it can be done^^

    TRDrider has the right idea , thats my plans for my ae 101. the celica had decent gas mileadge w/ that engine. that is the most bang for the buck idea.

    but for those that want the simple way out , 4agze . does the 1zz and the 4a have the same mounts? are they even close? once again , im a 7th gen guy , dont know much about 8th and ^.

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