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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by e_andree, Jan 25, 2007.

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    e_andree E

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    Shame on them for looking our for their students......
    . Nevermind

    All of these reasons are REAL stretches.

    Are you going to homeschool your children?
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    Azn_SpICe New Member

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    ok tell you what...you can go ahead and spank your kids...just don't be complaining to your wife that your kids arent listening to you..cuz that's the last thing i would want to hear from my husband. youre the one that spanked, its ur problem
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    Lol

    Are you going to homeschool your children? Are you going to continue to give them whatever they want?
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    SaberJ2X Lurk MOAR

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    I'll smack the shit out of my kid if that means either losing him to drugs or not
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    Azn_SpICe New Member

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    did you not read?? i said i will give them what they want as long as it is reasonable and they are good kids..it's not about the money either, money is nothing my household income is pretty high...and don't be putting crap in the "DEBATE AND RANT" if you don't want responses like that back!

    AND what I do with my kids are my business...YOU asked for opinions ..well, you got it! what else do you have.
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    LOL. First off, where did I bring up MONEY? Like I give a crap about how much money you and your husband bring in.....was that just a shameless plug to let it be known that you make good money?

    Secondly......im game for any and all responses...bring it on :):) Youre making assumptions about me and how I stand on this issue....no where in this thread have I said that I spank my kids....

    Thirdly...yes, what you do with your kids are YOUR business. But dont come in this thread and put down anyone that do things that you dont agree with......your opinion is just that. It isnt right or wrong.....so dont be trying to make it seem like your way is the only right way.

    Fourthly, you never answered my question....are you going to home school your children?

    I could sit here and pick apart your posts....but its not worth it. Your kids are perfect angels....we get it! :) What else do YOU have?
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    Azn_SpICe New Member

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    why would anyone care if i would homeschool my kids or not...YOU are the one that are asking all of these questions and bringing stuff up..if i want to spoil my kids because they are good, so be it...they are my kids.

    According to my first post, i gave my opinion. YOU are the one that is making a big ass fuss about it. It would have been done with only my first post. And it's funny how it's only you that i am responding to cuz i did not comment on daCubanSkillz response after mines because i RESPECTED his response because it was his decision so i let it end there. obviously you are bored or something and just wanted to be an a**. but go ahead, i have the time. **and readers...have fun***

    Like i had said, i don't give a crap if it was to be banned or not it all depends on the parents ..how do you raise your kids impacts them later on.
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    YOu seem to forget that this is the DEBATE thread.

    Nothing about my initial reply to you was disrespectful. I stated that I didnt agree. YOU could have left it at that, and YOU can just as easily not reply in this thread anymore.

    Still not sure what MONEY has to do with this.....lol

    My question about homeschooling directly correlates with your stories, that didnt really have much to do with spanking in the first place! Im just curious as to whether or not you are going to homeschool them, because you were saying negatives about the school system, not staying at home, etc.

    Overall, it sounds like you are a little parnoid......you are saying that if you swat your kids butt in discipline when they are 3, 4, 5 years old, that 65 years later they wont want to take care of you when youre old. How far fetched is that? You dont want them to be grouchy because you discipline them? Your are basically saying that kids with working parents are going to turn out shitty as well....a real stretch.

    My wife is basically a stay at home mom.....yet our son is still in daycare/pre-school every day. He would go crazy being at home all day...he'd be behind in social skills when it comes time for kindergarten, etc. Which is a main reason that Im against homeschooling as well......homeschooled children seriously lag in social skills.

    Im not arguing the fact that you are against spanking......its just your reasons seem really far fetched and paranoid. I think "spanking" is pointless when your children are young anyways...we're not talking 9 month olds here.....
    A swat on the butt isnt going to turn your kids against you.....and I can guarantee that you are the only person on this board that would disagree with me. We've had a previous thread that would show that.

    Yes, the way you raise your kids will impact them.....there are negatives and positives no matter what techniques you use as their growing up.

    Like I said in my original reply...to each their own.

    Ill reply to whatever you post tomorrow morning...its time for my childrens nightly lashings, then Im going to shackle them to their beds for the rest of the night.
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    Paolino SolidTuned

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    Heh you all know me. Sorry to bring scripture into it, but it is not to force anything on you, just to show you where I get my thinking from. :)

    Pro 22:15 Foolishness [is] bound in the heart of a child; [but] the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
    Pro 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for [if] thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
    Pro 29:15 The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left [to himself] bringeth his mother to shame.

    Sorry but I knew the wooden spoon well growing up. I think my Mother had stock in them. lol My parents did not 'beat' me per se, but they sure spanked me when I acted like a little shit.

    It lets a child know that there are consequences when they disobey or break the rules; plain and simple. Talking to your children in my opinion is no consequence. They learn nothing. [EDIT--Only talking to your children I mean] Anyone take a Psych class before? Didn't one of the old dead guys (Maslow maybe) say something along the lines that a child does not develop the ability to reason until 6? Or something like that. hmmm. anyway.

    In grade school up until I want to say 3rd grade we could be spanked. My mother had no problem with that. The Principal did not beat us, she paddled our butts. It worked on two levels: One you were embarrassed in class because the teacher took you out, so the whole class knew you were going to get spanked. Two, the physical humiliation (which you deserved) to humble you and snap you out of your rebellious attitude. (worked for me)

    As long as I tell my child what will happen when they mess up, I will deliver the consequence always. I will always try to keep my word with them whether it be good or bad.



    HERE'S THE ENLIGHTENMENT:
    I think Parents cause more harm by not spanking their child and by going back on punishments, AND by giving reprieves (letting off early) for seemingly good behavior. You want to really raise your children well and teach them responsibility, do not let their punishment up, and spank them when you tell thm yo uare going to. If they learn that they can act nicely to get out of a spanking or even get let up with grounding then they are learning the wrong lesson in life.
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    7MGTTEConcept MK3 #2? maybe..

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    :lol: now that is fucking hilarious! am I against spankings....no. I got spanked alot when I was a little kid, sometimes for stuff my brother did (don't ask...) did it turn me against my parents? nope. I still care about them and whenever I look back on those days when I did get those spankings, I just laugh about it and realize that I was disobedient. spanking is not a bad thing, nor do I think it's abuse. now if the parents started whipping the legs or torso, then it'd be abuse. I plan on spanking my kids if they ever get out of line, I'll even do it in front of their friends just to embarrass them. what do I care? as far as I know, spanking isn't illegal...yet...
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    the whole point i was making was that i dont want my kids to learn that spanking is okay and they wont even think it's "spanking" they see it as hitting. i guess i had to put it in lamens terms for everyone to understand.

    AND...i mentioned my lil sis because LAUSD is crap...their whole system is pathetic. they call her autistic, but she isn't. they say that she needs to be tutored, but they dont have any available...only people who are lower than she is...how much lower can you get if she is supposedly autistic. and then they claim that she is autistic because there is abuse in the house...MORE CRAP.
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    Ah, so now everyone here is stupid.
    Again, off topic.
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    Azn_SpICe New Member

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    eh..ur weird if that's all that you can come up with.
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    "Youre weird"...lol...have we converted back to middle school here?

    Theres nothing else to come up with....you think youre 100% right, and I think you have those views for all of the wrong and paranoid reasons. Nothing else to say.

    Ya swat your child on the butt for doing something wrong, they arent going to hate you 60 years later.
    Anyways...when youre children are actually old enough to understand right from wrong and would be old enough for "spankings" anyways, come back into this thread....until then, your opinion on the subject matter is unwarranted.
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    LOL when did i EVER say that i'm 100% correct? now that's just funny. if you don't like what i say then that's just too bad for you, ignore it. i dont give a crap what you say. my kids are my kids...i teach em my way...the end, that's it.
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    Exactly. Take some of your own advice...you put down those that do what you dont do.....
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    I was spanked. I am pretty sure though my parents never spanked me before the age of like three...because when i was four or five i had flipped my dad off ... of course not knowing what i was doing ... but my dad whooped my ass with a belt...barebutt and all...I'll tell you right now, I have never disobeyed him again. At first it was because I was scared but I quickly realized he demanded respect. So now it's all about repsect for my father. He wasn't brought up in the nicest household in the first place either...so I am sure that's where he got it from. But I can't answer if I am going to spank my kids. I probably won't in public...I'll just tell them this ... "Wait until we get into the car...." that shit worked on me when my mom would tell me ... she never hit me in my face or anywhere but my butt. So I think that I am doing just fine in life...I didn't become a sociopath or anything...I'm 22 years old finding my way. :)
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    DeebsTundra Big Tires :)

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    Time for me jump in on this.

    The problem with 95% of children today is a lack of discipline. Somewhere just the other day I heard something written by some teacher that said give or take, "Spare the body to save the soul. Don't spare the soul for the sake of the body."

    Hell, when I was 2, I got spanked. Not hard. Not viciously. But certainly enough to make me cry and get my attention. When I was 7, I got spanked. I was a little more well built at that time, so you better believe I got near full force on my a$$. When I was 10... my mom used to go outside, break off a badass looking branch and flat out my ass with it. I let the word sh!t slip out after church once when I accidentally locked her keys in her car. I couldn't sit down for 2 days.

    Where am I today? I don't disrespect my parents... I don't hate them... I don't despise them... I'll tell you what though. I know damn well what they expect me not to do. And I love both of my parents very much for teaching me properly.

    When it comes time to discipline my children, I will have the exact same approach. They will grow up, learning that when you do something wrong, consequences sometimes heavy will be brought down upon you. When you successful not make the same mistake again... there are no consequences.

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