Official Hurricane Katrina Thread (all other threads will be merged to this one)

i am sorry but WTF ar they thinking? Do they think that by shooting at them it going to make them go away?,once they learn that store does not have what they need becasue they got vandalized they will get pissed off as well and they won't look at what they themselves have done. it will just wined up hurting everyone on that area(s).

I really did not expect people to act this way, usually disasters bring out the best in the people (9-11, hurricanes in Florida, etc.) but this is just sickening, how can human's treat each other like that in such a time of need... bring the damn military in and shoot any of those fuckers trying to take advantage of the situation..

that is very true i guess thoe who only know how it is actuall felt are the ones who know how to prepare themselves. the people of those states will get a slap in the face once they realize what they have done.

i was agreeing to E_andree' last response, but i see teevee's point too.

the world is running rampant, it's ridiculous man, there's nowhere else to be safe man not even at home

Excellent point, I say finish the search and rescue, and leave all the fucking retarded looters there and see how long it takes for them to kill themselves off, then start rebuilding... but seriously, they need more people there, I ven thought about going but I went on the red cross canada website and there was a message stating that they are not currently taking additional volunteers, i mean wtf? Shouln't they be trying to have as much help as humanly possible?

i agree...i'm disgusted with what they are doing. Whats even more scary is that they cleaned out the gun sections in walmart and other stores. so now there are numerous people down there with guns. I heard one cop was shot in the head already (he survived).

But its true. Look at the way FL was left in past disasters yet everyone stuck together. I don't even see a reason for these people to steal TV's and shit. Its not like they can go home and plug it in. they have no electricity for christs sake.

I was watching a news cast lastnight from new orliens... and the way they have to light it with teh big generator lights it look like something out of a movie...

buahahaha nice line there..... and well yea that's one of the only reasons why I like CO since we don't have extreme weather like tornados and crap (well maybe to the east side of the state but to where we live there's just minor winds and about it)..... eh but gas just hit hard here lol 2.99 for regular and ABOVE 3 bucks already in most gas stations, eh I guess it's not all that bad as ATL lol

eh there's always next year........ and 93 octane? is that the octane level at the BP we went at to fill up ur tank the other night?

not to joke about a serious matter, but saw this posted on another board and thought it was funny. Just trying to keep tention off an already stressful couple of days...

true..we still have it easy with only gas prices to worry about...

sniper fire on a HOSPITAL?!?

this makes me so angry to read...it's like New Orleans is becoming its own little third world country.

what disgusts me more is my friend's mom is stuck in that hospital right now. fucking animals...

sniper fires at hospital in NOLA

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NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- New Orleans' Charity Hospital halted efforts to evacuate its patients after it came under sniper fire, according to Dr. Tyler Curiel, who witnessed the incidents.

The attack came as New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin issued "a desperate SOS" for the thousands of people stranded in an around the city's convention center with no food or water and fading hope.

Curiel and his National Guard escorts, were returning to the hospital after dropping off patients at nearby Tulane Medical Center, when someone started shooting at their convoy of Humvees.

"We were coming in from a parking deck at Tulane Medical Center, and a guy in a white shirt started firing at us," Curiel said. "The National Guard (troops), wearing flak jackets, tried to get a bead on this guy. "

The incident happened around 11:30 a.m. (12:30 p.m. ET). About an hour later, another gunman opened fire at the back of Charity Hospital.

"We got back to Charity Hospital with with food from Tulane and we said, 'OK the snipers are behind us, let's move on,'" Curiel said. "We started loading patients (for transport) and 20 minutes later, shots rang out."

The National Guard soldiers told staff to get away from the windows, and evacuations were halted.

Charity Hospital has no electricity, no water and the only food available is couple of cans of vegetables and graham crackers.

Evacuations by boat were halted after armed looters threatened medics, and overturned one of their boats.

The sniper attacks were the latest incidents of violence that have disrupted efforts to help people in the flooded city.

'Desperate SOS' for New Orleans
CNN's Chris Lawrence described "many, many" bodies, inside and outside the facility on New Orleans' Riverwalk. (Watch report on the desperate conditions at the convention center -- 4:36 )

"There are multiple people dying at the convention center," Lawrence said. "There was an old woman, dead in a wheelchair with a blanket draped over her, pushed up against a wall. Horrible, horrible conditions.

"We saw a man who went into a seizure, literally dying right in front of us."

In a statement Thursday, Nagin said that "the convention center is unsanitary and unsafe and we are running out of supplies for (15,000 to 20,000) people."

He said the city would allow people to march up the Crescent City Connection to the Westbank Expressway in an effort to find help.

People were "being forced to live like animals," Lawrence said, surrounded by piles of trash and feces.

He said thousands of people were just laying in the ground outside the building -- many old, or sick, or caring for infants and small children.

Video from the scene showed a group chanting 'we want help, we want help,' as mothers tried to console their tired and hungry children.

More people were arriving at the center, walking south along Canal Street. The route north to the Superdome is blocked by chest-deep water.

The convention center was used as a secondary shelter when the Louisiana Superdome was overwhelmed.

As reports indicated a mounting death toll in New Orleans, U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu said that "we understand there are thousands of dead people" in Louisiana, according to media reports.

Evacuation points swamped with people
A Louisiana National Guard official told CNN Thursday morning that between 50,000 and 60,000 people had converged at evacuation points near the Superdome hoping to get on one of the buses out of town.

"It's no longer just evacuees from the Superdome, as citizens who were holed up in high-rise office buildings and hotels saw buses moving into the dome, they realized this is an evacuation point," Lt. Col. Pete Schneider of the Louisiana National Guard said. (Watch report on violence delaying evacuation -- 1:51)

Desperation was evident as the buses rolled out. State Sen. Robert Marionneaux recounted a story about a woman near the Superdome who handed her 2-month-old baby to someone who had managed to get on a bus to Houston, begging her to take care of the baby. CNN could not independently verify his account.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff denied reports that rescue efforts in New Orleans had been halted for security reasons Thursday, saying those operations "are continuing in full force."

"We are going to continue to increase the tempo of that program until we've cleared people out of the Superdome and we've cleared people out of New Orleans," he said.

Chertoff said that the Coast Guard has rescued about 3,000 people from flooded areas in New Orleans and the surrounding parishes.

Houston has offered to house about 25,000 people in the Astrodome. San Antonio, Texas, has agreed to take another 25,000 people, officials said Thursday. Schneider said that officials were looking for additional locations.

Widespread looting and random gunfire have been reported across New Orleans. Police told CNN that groups of armed men roamed the streets overnight.

Officers told CNN they lacked manpower and steady communications to properly do their jobs -- and that they needed help to prevent the widespread looting and violence now prevalent in the city.

A police officer working in downtown New Orleans said police were siphoning gas from abandoned vehicles in an effort to keep their squad cars running, CNN's Lawrence reported.

The officer said police are "on their own" for food and water, scrounging up what they can from anybody who is generous enough to give them some -- and that they have no communication whatsoever. Police also told CNN they were removing ammunition from looted gunshops in an effort to get it off the streets.

The Pentagon said that by next week 24,000 troops would be on the ground to assist in recovery efforts, including 8,600 National Guard members by Friday who could be put to work in law enforcement. (See video on Pentagon response -- 2:14)

President Bush, in an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America," said that their should be "zero tolerance of people breaking the law during an emergency such as this."

He promised a rapid federal response to the disaster.

Mississippi death toll rising
The breadth of the brutality of Hurricane Katrina became clearer as more death toll figures began to filter in from Mississippi's coastal region.

Authorities said at least 185 people died in Monday's Category 4 storm.

In Hancock County alone, Sheriff Eddie Jennings put the death toll at 85, with 60 people dead in Pearlington, 22 in Waveland, two in Bay St. Louis and one body that had washed up on the beach.

In neighboring Harrison County, which is home to Gulfport and Biloxi, authorities reported 100 bodies had been found, an emergency official in the state capital, Jackson, told CNN.

Power out; gas prices rising
Electricity was out for more than 2.3 million people in Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama and Florida.

Meanwhile, Katrina's effect on oil supplies and gas prices spread nationwide, prompting the White House to tap the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

News of disruptions in the gas supply sparked runs on stations and a sharp spike in prices, with some drivers in Atlanta, Georgia, facing prices above $5 a gallon. (Economic impact)

The operators of two key pipelines that carry fuel out of the region announced Thursday that they were resuming limited operations.

In New Orleans, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers was using helicopters to drop 15,000-pound sandbags into breaches in the city's levee system -- the first step in trying to control the flooding that submerged most of the city. (See video on levee repairs -- 3:53)

The flow of water into New Orleans from Lake Pontchartrain finally abated, Corps officials said. But engineers won't begin trying to pump out the water until the breaches are plugged. (Recovery efforts)

I read on another forum that an estimated 3000 Army soldiers are expected to be sent out - most likely from the 82nd Airborne. They need to go kick some asses...shooting at relief helicopters and hospitals is deserving of a bullet.

like i said before in another thread here. i'm just disgusted with this. they're trying to help everyone and they're getting shot at. wtf is wrong with people?!

http://TRDforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3910


this whole situation disgusts me...it's amazing to see the levels humans will stoop when their situation becomes dire.

i have no fucking clue.

all i know is the innocent medical staff - it was mandatory they show up - are basically dealing with an outbreak of insanity. they're stuck in a brewing situation that probably makes missionaries in central america feel lucky.

damn...wtf is wrong wit these people?

Marshal Law

should be put in place now down in New Orleans