Another school shooting

I don't know if it was the norm back then but some body had to own them... my father still works behind the same desk that he worked behind when he was 16, selling the same pumps. blue collar was life back then, suburban life was not all T.V. landish, there was actually more spousal abuse then, than there is now. even through the 70's.

but no i havent seen a story on how good the family was for a prodigy child... but i HAVE experineced how family can change one. a kid in my graduating class (actually one of my very good friends) was 2 years younger than me and had tought him self college calc by the end of 8th grade and had enough college credets to graduate by his junor year, but could not because he had not actually graduated high school yet. (his parents wanted him to go through all of highschool.) his family means more to him than anything in the world. he had too drop out of a school play because his sister had the flu. his parents both work to keep them in there house. now he has been excepted in to oxford but he is not going because he doesnot want to be away from his faimly for that long.

by the way I went to a highschool not even five minutes away from columbine and I was a freshman on april 20th 1999 I was in english class when we herd about the events unfolding at our sister school down the street. I will never forget that day... ever

wow five posts in the time it took me to post mine... WOW i type slow.

As always, there will be exceptions to the norm.

There will be kids who are left home alone for hours on end, and they end up applying themselves like no other and becoming brilliant geniuses. There will be kids who have one parent who stays home all the time, while the other parent is rich enough to not work very long, and he will end up the worst of kids despite the best parenting in the world. That's the nature of the human psyche.

On the average though, you can generally predict the chances for any number of things based on how you were raised as a child.

How society responds to this will be based on the next generation of parenting (us), as the damage is mostly done already. I'm just afraid that the media will never get this message out, for fear of trying to speak out against society.

THIS KID KILLED A POLICE OFFICER AND TOOK HIS CRUISER TO THE SCHOOL. Now you tell me..you want all of our country's law enforcment members to go unarmed? Hell no. This murderer killed an unarmed security guard before shooting people at the school.

If you don't like it, move to a not-so-free country. Gah.

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turbo, parents not being home and not influencing the child positively has a Large effect on the childs behavior. Yet, the childs peers have an almost equally large effect. That is why boys and girls clubs pop up and violence goes down, not because parents are involved, but because Someone is involved and the childs influences change. He/she gets different friends and a new surrounding.

Yes i do cpe at uah, but i also have an uncountable amount of community service hours and i worked many many afterschool programs. anyone heard of S.t.a.r.s, i'm sure you have cuztomrollas98 and vortex, they are based out of colorado. worked with them so much in high school i thought i'd move to denver (not necessarily a good organization though). but, anyhow, all these organizations i've been in are constantly flooded with statistics, studies and field experiments; i encourage everyone to volunteer some time as it definitely is time well spent to discourage this sort of behavior.

like i said thers positives and negatives to all these changes, im specifically speaking of how these changes affected children..i dont see how civil rights has ANYTHING to do with this, but it was true nonetheless..., and no perhaps family values wasnt an issue but i can see how the lack of parents can negatively affect a kid

^also true....i never had a dad and i think im doin allright(well as far as not wanting to kill every1 goes), hell i graduated highschool a year early! im not saying this is the sole reason for the shooting but i theorize if things wouldve been different on a parental level with this kid, perhaps the outcome of this situation wuldve been different

I completely agree with renfield90 about guns, (and everyone else on that side).
THey are not the problem .take columbine for example. the guns that the kids got -> obtained them illegally. no gun law would have stopped that. (well unless they never existed in the first place, but good luck with that).
Having guns are not the problem. the age old argument still holds. guns dont have a brain, they dont pull the trigger themselves. some insane person with some insane idea has to go and do it. you're not going to stop that.
Hell almost all the guns that are on the street are obtained illegally anyways. gun laws arent goign to stop that. If people want them, they can get them.

Holy old thread batman

I thought there was another school shooting recently just by reading the title

So did I..

lol... i was like,

"i posted this thread recently????" then i looked at how old it was! lol