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arizona immigration?

What are your thoughts on the Arizona law about immigration?

I can careless about it. I wish more states would be do the same and not just talking about mexico, but all illegal immigrants. I hate the typical, “they do jobs Americans won’t do” since that is bullshit. I have never seen proof of that and in this economy you will find legal citizens to do those jobs. Those jobs are probably better suited for first time workers anyways.

I haven't been following it, buts it has made big news. Care to cliffnote it?

i think its fine. in fact arizona has made some pretty interesting laws or other things to help out the everyday citizens. It kinda sucks that obama's new health reform law changes a few health laws that they had at that state but like California is leading with new laws to help reduce emissions and stuff, Arizona IMO is very creative as well.

"The law, which proponents and critics alike said was the broadest and strictest immigration measure in generations, would make the failure to carry immigration documents a crime and give the police broad power to detain anyone suspected of being in the country illegally. Opponents have called it an open invitation for harassment and discrimination against Hispanics regardless of their citizenship status." - The New York Times.

i just read it So god damn hard to find a copy of the bill using google. I dont want to read about what nytimes/foxnews/nbc has to say i just wanna read the god damn bill...basically they can ask people to prove their citizenship without any cause? imo it makes sense. if you're in this country illegally you dont have any rights. I am an immigrant and i did my shit legit (well my parents did because i was 5) but still. My buddy who lives down in Pharr, TX right on the border agrees with the bill too.

Bottom line is, if you're trying to get into the country illegally you fucked up and have no rights. If you are here legally, more power to you. I wouldn't have a problem if a cop asked me to show my id/social on the street.

ikonXone if youve been to the fields in ca, mainly bakersfield a lot of immigrants work picking fruits, and im sure weve all seen the people that sell flowers or oranges off the fwy, never seen anyone other immigrants do that job. But at the same time they could do things to become legal. I have a friend thats an illegal immigrant but she was brought over as a baby by her parents, but her parents couldve made her legal, and she couldve done it herself also. Oh and also as MovieStar said if you come over here illegaly you fucked up, most people come over here thinking its gonna be a better life but yet they get over here and it turns out to be the same thing as there country or maybe a bit better, but never as good as they think its gonna be

I would be alright with illegals provided they didn't leech off of our tax dollars. However, not the case, so I approve of this.

Fuck em all, if your not legal get the fuck out. I wont lose sleep over sending them back to their countries, if you wont do it, I will.

when's the last time you've bought oranges or strawberries from a person on the corner of a freeway exit? it's not needed and if it is than let a legal american do it.

newest thing i heard on a radio show (can't find the news story unfortunately) is that illegals who use fake identities to get work will usually use the most amount of deductions of 14 so that little tax is taken out. if the US would go to a fair tax system, i think that would get everyone covered on paying their share of taxes.

Or an immigrant who is here legally on a work visa. They may not be an american but they have permission to do the job.

If their in a work visa then they are legally here

yes, or legal immigrants. this is mainly about illegal immigrants.

i was adding to the quote since even on work visas, those immigrants are not americans. The quote stated "legal americans"

Agreed to every word.

where are these stats from?

the us government.

shit i didnt know that hotel stat. i think with or without them the US would still be fuked

i'm tired of seeing the protesters saying it's unconstitutional, last time i checked the constitution applied to people here legally.

Wouldn't the protesters be the ones hiding or covering for illegals? Easy picking for the cops later if they continue to protest. lol

I agree with it... All my Hispanic friends are like ''WTF is wrong with you?''.... What a lot of Hispanics don't understand is that the reason why us Latinos are not well liked here other than the fact of entering to this country Illegally, is that they think they can come here and live with no laws like back in Mexico or where ever it is they came from... FUCK NO! We all have to abide by laws wether we like it or not. Just cause shit was different in other places doesn't mean that this system is going to agree with it. You break the law, now deal with the consequences. All I ever hear on the news based on headlines of assault and or any other crime related stuff is that prime suspects are Hispanics about 80% of the time... That shit is really sad and fucked up because of the fact that they are making good, honest and LEGAL Hispanic people look like absolute shit and be prejudged all the time... That and most of the drug trafficking takes place due to illegal people crossing boarders as well just packing tons of drugs and shit... ''WTF is wrong with the U.S and blah blah blah'' most people say cause of this law but all I can say is well how would you like for someone to break into your property/land and fuck your shit up?.... Well same situation here so put yourselves in the position of the US citizens, Government officials and LEGAL aliens by doing shit THE RIGHT WAY and educate yourselves and catch up with the times, we are in the USA not any other countries in which most laws are for show and don't apply.

amen, cuztoms

when I moved to america to look for a job first thing I did was buy atleast some decent looking shoes and got the accent as best as I could

I'm from PR, so visa nor inmigration applies, but I didn't wanna look like the ones in the ghetto talking all "sup holmes".

A lot of people think that change means being a poser. You definitely can't forget who you are and where you come from because that's what makes you, HOWEVER that doesn't mean you have to deny yourself a chance to come out of ignorance and better yourself. Reason why our countries are so down and under is because the government controls people by ignorance and we let them. There is so many good things that I personally have learned from this system and country and I feel much better educated in certain aspects when I go back to my country and visit with friends and family and how they live their lives there.

This is a sensitive issue. Yeah you can argue that the illegals mow our lawns, pick our fruit and clean my hotel rooms, etc, but the bottom line is they're here illegally. They should not deserve to feed off the gov't for free. 30 billion for education? WOW. Arnold Swartzenegger (sorry, i'm too lazy to spell check that) is cutting school days because there's hardly any money left to keep schools running. In addition to the hard working illegals (primarily the Hispanics doing the hard labor jobs) there are illegals practicing illegal activity. Stealing, drug dealing, etc. This is just upsetting and making things worse for the illegals who are working their butts off to make a living (illegaly)

The new bill is a step towards a solution, and what I've seen so far are just what the illegals are capable of and what effect they have on the USA. The new bill isn't very PC. It's harsh. How about some alternative SOLUTIONS?

Here are some of my ideas. They may not be great but it's a try.

Deport the illegals committing crime on the streets. Why crowd our prisons? My tax dollars are being spent to correct these illegal immigrants? No thanks. Deport.

So you really want to come to the US and make a living? Okay, STAND IN LINE and get a worker's visa! Unfortunately that's not going to work. Standing in line and waiting for a workers/professional visa? GO AHEAD cross the line!! But my solution to that is, you're documented an illegal immigrant, and there's a $2/hr minimum wage waiting for you and you'll be taxed big time. Don't even think about amnesty or think about getting a shot at citizenship. WAIT IN LINE. There are people all over the world waiting in line to get their worker visas. It's not fair illegals from Mexico take up all the room.

I don't know. I'm just ranting, but that's my solution for illegals. Wait in line for your visa, or pay the price.

I agree. I was going to say California should adopt the death penalty instead of correction, but deportation would work too. However, what's to stop them from entering illegally again? We'll just have to spend money to deport them again and while they're in our country, they'll have time commit more illegal actions. So the death penalty might not be such a bad idea. They have no rights here. Of course those immigrants who don't commit crimes, won't be caught and executed. It's that simple. I know many won't agree with me here, but I had to say my 2 cents. Carry on.

We had 4,000 people protesting the Arizona immigration law this past day, more than half of them probably illegals. Should have netted all of them with a giant net from a helicopter and drop em off in mexico, legal or not.