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Engine ZZE110 C60 Swap Thread (no more shoutbox)

Discussion in 'Powertrain' started by James, Mar 29, 2013.

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    The intent of this thread is to provide a permanent list of parts and procedures needed to install a C60 transmission in the ZZE110 chassis in place of a C59. Manual -> Manual swap. The reason for creating this thread is so that Milky doesn't have to type the shit over and over again in the shoutbox.

    So, parts list begins:
    1. C60
    :okay: Please help from here.:ashamed:
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    Thank you.

    USE THIS THREAD INSTEAD OF FILLING UP THE CHATBOX WITH USEFUL JUNK! DON'T MAKE ME SHUT YOU DOWN.
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    This is quoted from this website. The last post.

    http://www.tunemytoyota.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6849

    1) C60 is a direct bolt on, but had to remove the driver's side engine undercover because it would scrape on full turns. Had to use axles from a 05 Matrix 5 speed and 92 Celica ST AUTO to make it work. The shifting mechanism is a different story. Nothing matched. Had to change out the shifter cables to one from a Corolla XRS and the shifter assembly. The shifter assembly wouldn't bolt on so we had to weld in a new plate to bolt it on.

    If I had to do it over again, I would of went with a Celica GTS C60 because that shifter assembly actually bolts on, but you would still had to swap out the shifter cables.

    FYI, there are two types of C60 as far as the shifter mechanism is concerned. Corolla XRS/Matrix XRS and the Celica GTS.



    AND YES.... GOLD IS IN THAT PAGE TOO! LOL
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    Doesn't say if the Matrix and Celica axles are left and right or right and left.
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    but how can you use the celica and matrix axles? they wont fit on the corolla spindle???:confused:
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    no it doesnt. i would suspect that the 92 celica axle would be the drivers side. ill check the lenght on that one here in a minute. but im using a 94 celica gt passenger side. it was a bolt in and uses the intermediate shaft. helps control torque steer.

    i dont want to brag, but his is from 2011.. i did my swap in 2008. but modified a open diff to work with oem 8th gen axles for that swap. i scrapped it in favor of the obx lsd setup which requires a different splined axle.

    ok for some info. drivers side trans mount, it needs minor mods. a little bit of the mount cut off to clear a boss on the transmission and a new hole drilled for the 3rd trans mount bolt. thats it. no other mods to the mounts required.

    for my measurements, you can use a 00-05 celica gt drivers side axle has the correct inner and outer splines, but is 7/8ths of an inch too long. my solution was to dissassemble the cv axle down to just a splined shaft, cut the excess out, tack weld it back together so a local diesel or axle shop can make a new splined shaft.

    passenger side axle is a 94-99 celica gt passenger side axle. this is if you want to use the intermeadiate shaft, which i would highly recommend. it does wonders to help eliminate torque steer.

    for the shifter. i am using 8th gen corolla 5spd shifter cables, 7th gen celica shifter base (bolts in and has added throw to select all the gears) and the 9th gen corolla bell crank assembly on the transmission. this has worked for me.

    also, you will need to go to the clutch slave cylinder for a 00+ celica as they have a different bolt patten, so the 8th gen slave cylinder wont physically bolt to the transmission.
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    holy shit! a perfect fit oem axle!
    our oem axle is 24 1/16ths of an inch compressed.
    the 92 celica st auto axle is 24 in exactly compressed.

    rule of thumb for axles is give about 1/8ths of an inch for stuff like this. cus the axle can float in and out quite a bit. this one wouldnt bottom out on our cars. its the closest match i have ever seen

    so bolt in axles are as follows:
    Drivers - 90-93 celica ST (1.6) automatic axle. cannot be manual, must be the 20 spline auto.
    Passenger - 94-99 celica GT manual axle (with int. shaft is my pref)
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    Nice. But you should add the Passenger axle that fits that isn't the intermediate type.
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    That's sweet. Still trying to find out if this is worth all the extra troubles over the stock 5 speed
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    ill get on that and compare the compressed lengths and spline counts. i want to say our oem on is 36 1/2 inches compressed, so you would need one the same length (+/- 1/8th in) but with a inner spline count of 20 instead of the 8th gen corollas 23 spline.

    for me, yes. no comparison. this car surprises almost everyone. you should have seen the look on this guys face a few weekends ago. he was driving a srt4 neon. i know it had a different fmic, intake and boost controller, cus he talked of it being on 16psi that night. i know stock is 10 or so. so we went on a little rip. i ended up next to this guy, but i had 2 friends with me. he was by him self. race starts.. 2-3-4-5-6 and let out around 120 ish or so. he had maybe 3, 4 car lengths on me tops. turn around and go for round 2. about the same result. so we get back to the spot, i get out of my car and he starts to say how surprised he was that i was almost hanging with him with my dinky little corolla, but he stop mid sentance as the 2 passengers get out of my car. both are larger guys like my self. the srt4 owner just stopped talking. calmly walked to his car, got in and left. no one said anything to him during this time. i was sad. i wanted to purpose a re race without my passengers... lol

    yes, it is worth it. you take a little bit of a hit in the mpg department for a big gain in acceleration, with the 4.5 final that is. i bet a 3.9 or 4.3 wouldnt be as bad. i still get 27-29mpgs all the time too. so its not terrible.
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    I'm not worried about MPG, the way I drive, if the entire trip is in the city, I'm stoked when I break 200 miles a tank.
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    nice. then do it. it brings the car to life.
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    Well I take a vacation in three weeks. You can show up on that Monday
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    i wish i could right now. i got a lot to get done as is for my own car. plus pay for the supercharger and other things.

    also, i think this is relevant to this thread as well. its my 2-3-4 run i filmed. mods at the time of the run are as follows:
    2.75in home built intake, no cat, no muffler, stock piping and resonator still. stock header, rebuilt 1zzfe with vvti (01 celica gt head with the larger valves, intake manifold as well) non vvti intake cam retimed in the exhaust cams spot, 01 celica gt ecu, 03 celica c60 with obx helical lsd reshimmed, poly filled engine mounts, ralco rz underdrive pulley set, xtd 12lb flywheel, ky clutch oem 2zz clutch with hd pressure plate, power enterprise camcon cc101. mr2 spyder wheels (15in) with nitto neo gen 205/50r15's on them. not much for power really.

    http://s910.photobucket.com/user/demi-god_sam/media/VIDEO0044.mp4.html

    the complete mod list to my car is much longer, but those are what i would consider the somewhat relevant mods so you can see how much this transmission transforms the corollas.
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    I though you had the m2 header?
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    I do. It is not installed due to it developing a crack on the primary of cylinder 2. I took it out to be repaired, bought a 2z and decided to mod It for that, but now aince ill have a Trd sc, I'm going to fix the crack. Make a jig and possibly make a new m2 header.
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    Haha you're gonna love surprising people with the S/C Corolla. I LOVED it every time I did it.
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    Yeah, I can't wait to see the srt4 guy out again... He's really going to be like dafaq!?
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    I am going to send my 2ZZ injectors for cleaning and balancing tomorrow. Getting close...
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    the other option for the passenger side axle would be from a 92 celica st auto as well... its 3/16ths of an inch difference and is the closest im finding right now. i have no idea how i overlooked the st185 chassis like this for axles. i feel stupid. lol. but it looks like they are perfect bolt in axles for a c60 swap.
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    Just to let you guys know. Yellow 2zz injectors start maxing out around 190-200whp...
    And that's at very high duty cycle. FYI
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    Should be legit for stock pulley?
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    That's fine, I have a set of scion tc 2az injectors. They are 365cc and direct drop ins. There is a auction on eBay where you can get them for 5-8$ an injector. Not bad at all. And as long as your not going to 100% duty cycle you will be ok. I try to stay under 90% dc's.
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    Damn, it's just so cheap.
    Added: Mar 30, 2013 at 8:09 PM
    Are you going to use a new fuel pump?
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    thinking about it. i probably will, but not right away. i might pull my deatschwerks pump out of my miata. 300lph is nice!
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    I have a few walbros around, but not excited about the whine.

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