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XENON BULBS SELLING AT EBAY.........TELL ME HOW YOU

Discussion in 'Exterior' started by special_ahs, Oct 14, 2003.

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    XENON BULBS SELLING AT EBAY.........TELL ME HOW YOU

    Okay, I know that they are not HID and they are not as bright and crisp as real HID, but at least you get that different look. My current factory bulbs are projecting dull yellow light.....and I want them to be either white or blue. The BRIGHTNESS really doesn't matter to me.

    I see people selling different types of bulbs at ebay. They range from 50 watts to 100 watts. I know that these wattages are higher than the factory ones, but they are claiming that because of special fiber coating, it will not burn out my wiring.
    I don't believe them.

    My question is, I am not interested in upgrading my harness wires. I just want to know if those bulbs are safe. I heard that 50watts bulbs are tolerable with my factory harness. Is this true?
    If you have installed these bulbs, please let me know if they really burned out your harnesses.
    I want to buy the 100wattage ones if harnesses can tolerate them.

    Please don't start lecturing about how they are not HID......I already know that.
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    OEM Info

    9006 (low beam) 55 Watts, 1000 lumens
    9005 (high beam) 65 Watts, 1700 lumens

    Aftermarket, get Silver Stars cuz for lights, you get what you pay for....
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    I understand.......

    So, I guess those 50 ~ 65 wattage bulbs selling at ebay are safe. It shouldn't burn out my factory harnesses, right?

    What about those 80~100 wattage bulbs? They are claiming that their special bottom coating will protect my wires......
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    its a gamble, youre gonna have to take
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    Gamble?

    Why are you saying that?

    If they are 60 ~65 watts, and matches your factory ones, why would it burn out your wires? Unless, those wattages are mis-advertised.....
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    I just called my Toyota dealer and a service person there told me that any of these bulb should be okay on my Corolla.

    Basically, what he said was as long as the voltage is 12, it really doesn't matter if bulbs are 65 watts or 100 watts. It should not burn out my wires.


    Do you agree?
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    i was talking bout the 80-100 watts because since they produce more wattage, that means they burn hotter
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    that is a assumption, there have been people, not on this board but on vvti that have melted their harnesses because of the extra heat produced so he may say its ok, but if the harness is damaged, you will need to pay a pretty penny to get a new one cuz they wont cover it under warranty since you got bulbs beyond the manual recomendation. if you are gonna get them, have the dealer sign off on it cuz they are the ones who you will be seeing if anything happens...
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    Time for you to go to another dealer. The one you're dealing with now is giving you bad advice. Don't exceed 65 watts, period. You can buy the cheap ebay ones if you want, but I'd save my money for Silverstars. Haven't had them long enough to know, but I'm sure they'll last many years.
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    To special_ahs:

    Well, you might want to think of it this way. You buy a lamp. The lamp says max wattage 40w. Going with the logic of the Toyota dealer that you talked to "as long as it's 120v, it doesn't matter...". So you throw a 100w bulb in hopes that you get brighter light. A fire ensues (from the added heat a 100w bulb produces) and you end up burning down your house. Did it matter in that case?
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    silverstars are good but i definitely wonder how long they are going to last provided the fact that we had DRL....

    oh and bimmernut, that is a very good way to put things into prespective, i'm bad with examples but that was very well put..
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    DRL won't make much of a difference. Ever noticed how the lights get brighter when you turn the headlights on? When the DRLs are on, the voltage applied to them is lower - a 10% drop in voltage will increase the life of the bulb 10 fold as a general rule.
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    well i do realize hence the fact that when you get HID's you need to disable your DRL. what i meant is that say if the bulbs overall life is 10,000 hours, in that case since they come on all the time, it would be significantly reduced compared to just turning them on when needed....
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    The point is that 10 hours of daylight running is roughly equivalent to one hour with the headlights turned on. Your 10,000 hours becomes 100,000 hours. DRL is not a significant issue with regards to headlight life unless you do all your driving during the day.
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    I think this is a bad comparison.......

    I have many lamps at home..cheap ones...expensive ones...and they didn't burn my house down. They originally came with 65w bulbs, but I have replace them all with 100w bulbs. I have been changing them with 100w for over 6 years now.
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    How much are those Silverstarts bulbs? Where can I find them? Do you have their link?
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    Well, you've been lucky so far... don't come crying when you have a house fire...

    You seem to have convinced yourself that 100w bulbs will be okay in your Rolla... why don'y you just buy the cheap (quality) eBay bulbs and try them out?
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    dude the basic thing is that things on a car are a certain way for a reason, sure there is a loop hole, there always will be and has been, but if you want something better, do it the legit way, dont endanger yourself or anyone else by doing so. sure the house didnt burn down, but i know what bimmer nut is saying, almost all the lamps they installed for us say 65 watts max. so bimmer nut's example is perfectly valid. as for the ones ur talking bout, all have a limit, its just that most lamps and desklamps will take a hundred, but even then the owners manual recomends a max.
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    "How much are those Silverstarts bulbs? Where can I find them? Do you have their link?"

    figure about 40 bucks a pair, wall mart sells them (but you should buy everything else from target. target is good. we just don't sell silverstars :) )

    http://www.sylvania.com/auto/silverstar.htm
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    Going back up the top of the thread, are you sure those ebay bulbs are rated at 100 watts? Most of them I see say something like "65W = 100W".

    They're trying to say the bulb draws 65 watts from your electrical system, but puts out 100 watts worth of light for it. If that's the case, it's a load of BS. There's no such thing as a free lunch, unless you change the actual type of lighting itself (IE real HIDs only draw 35 watts).

    Bimmernut's example is a very good one. Have you ever looked inside a household light socket with the bulb out? See that little cardboard insualtor? It heeps the hot and the return seperate in the socket. Overheat it long enough, it gets brittle and breaks down. If it shorts, the lamp cord will melt and maybe catch fire long before that 20 amp circuit breaker feeding the circuit trips. No, it doesn't happen very often. But yes, it only takes once...

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