Engine Will the 2AZ-FE fit on 9th gen engine bay?

Will the 2AZ-FE fit on 9th gen engine bay?

I'd just like to know if it will because I remember hearing from the folks over at TN that there'll be a s/c out for it sometime this year (probably late this year).

160 + s/c = faster than XRS and probably can catch up to a IS300?

do you mean 2zz-fe? as in the celica GTS engine?
or 2jz, as in supra/sc300 engine?

heavy. bad idea. although it does benefit strongly from a head job (over 30HP at the wheels, from what i've read)

I would benefit strongly from a head job about now too.

For all the work you will put in to get it fit, I suggest you to put a 3S-GTE in it.

the 3s-gte fits?!?!? time to save some $$$$. the 2az-fe is also in the camry, but there isnt much aftermarket support for it.

Yeah I really did mean the 2AZ-FE (the very same from the camry and tc). I'm planning for a swap job eventually (after I rob a few banks since I've already sold my dignity to this homeless dude).

I was thinking of the 2AZ-FE because I'd figure it would be at least cheaper and easier to manage than the 2ZZ-GE (or the 3S-GTE for that matter). Plus I can still slap a s/c on it later when it comes out.

The 3S-GTE would fit from what I've read...but it would require lots and lots of modding to the bay, no?

Oh man, I can't believe this...I was checking the prices on 2AZ-FE and 3S-GTE on car-parts.com, and they're both the SAME PRICE. WHY!?

An XRS can already beat an IS300.

It, uh, can?

Care to tell me how/why?

uhh it's faster?

The 2AZ-FE is the same price as the 3S-GTE because it is a much newer engine (only since 2002 or so that they are available), as it gets older, the price will go down.

Isn't IS300 215 horses with an inline-6? how can the XRS be faster?

Weight and gearing...

haha, can't believe no one caught that, or ignored it i guess.

Not to say I don't believe you, but I find that hard to believe...

I just looked it up -- looks like the IS300 runs a mid-15 with the manual tranny..not sure what year that was, though.

I could probably beat one if I sprayed..

2005 Toyota Corolla XRS and 2005 Lexus IS300

XRS Horsepower - 170 hp
IS300 Horsepower - 215 hp

XRS Weight - 2670 lbs.
IS300 Weight - 3255 lbs.

Thats 585 lbs. in difference. Thats alot of weight for not that much more power. On top of that, the XRS is a 6 speed manual, so you have 1 extra gear, which also means each gear is a bit shorter than a normal 5 speed would, but not only that, because the XRS has a high redline, the gears are even shorter because the car can stills tay in each gear long enough because of the high redline. The IS300 comes with either a 5 speed automatic or 5 speed manual.

Wow, the IS sure doens't look like it's 3255 lbs. But I guess looks can be deceiving.

Then again, you know a fatass when you see one.

Extra weight for the 6 Cylinder, extra weight for the RWD drivetrain, extra weight for sound deadening material (it is in the luxury class after all), and im sure the material they use for everything in the car weighs more than the cheaper stuff in the Corolla... like thicker metal, thicker glass, thicker material for the dash/seats/etc. There's a lot of places the weight can go.

Does anyone know the weights of the 2ZZGE, 2AZFE, and 3SGTE? I just rode in a tC this evening... it pulled very nice, but doesn't have nearly the top end that the XRS has. Lots of low end pull though...

That would be interesting to know... the weights of those engines, plus the weights of the 1zz/2zz engines...

all i know is that the 2azfe is heavier than the 2zzge and the 3sgte. from what i heard the 2zzge is the lightest engine to replace the 4a-ge and the 3sgte motor.

If I had a scale that went high enough I could have weight the 2ZZ when I had it out... maybe I'll pick one up for an upcoming 3SGTE swap

Are you sure? I find it hard to believe the 2AZ-FE is heavier than the 3S-GTE since the 2AZ is an aluminum block compared to the 3S-GTE's iron block.

A 3S-GTE has been swapped to a 7th gen Celica but it costed about $10,000. So pretty much thats the same price range you'd probably be looking to spend on swapping it into a Corolla.

If you look at the dynograph of a 2AZ-FE, you'd notice that up high in the RPM's the power will drop. It's how the engine was designed. Similar to the 5S-FE. You can fix that by getting some cams for the 2AZ-FE.

The power to weight ratio of the XRS pwnz the IS300.

I could swap a 3SGTE into a Corolla for less than that, garanteed.

Also I can say after riding in a tC last night, the 2AZ-FE DEFINETELY drops off in the high RPMs. It's like there's this buildup of torque and you're just waiting for the engine to let loose as you build RPMs and then... it falls flat on it's face... LOL

It would still be a fun engine to play around with though.

i never considered the is300 being slower than an XRS... wow.

Well, the 2AZ-FE was originally meant for Camry drivers...most of which won't push it to redline, so it's probably for the best to have all the power in the low rpm range.

Oh yeah, what's the difference between iron and aluminum block besides weight?

I don't really see how the job can amount to 10k though - i mean parts would probably go to about $4500...but labor for more?

And uh...this may sound stupid, but...isn't the 3S-GTE tranny AWD?

The iron block is stronger. The aluminum probably cools better.

To use a 3SGTE in a Corolla you would want to use a Camry V6 tranny or a MR2 Turbo tranny (modified). Or a Celica GT tranny but that's not as strong.