Engine Turboing a Celica

Can you use the 3SGTE pistons with the 5SF(T)E? I imagine the 5SFE is basically a stroked 3S, similar to the 4AFE/7AFE deal?

Turboing a Celica

does anyone know anything about turboing a 94 Celica gt with the 5sfe engine, could someone tell me the parts and the material i would need, i would like to install this myself but i need to know what to buy and what it will cost, what about the kits that are out there, how are those?

3sgte

i know a swap is the easiest bet, is it a direct swap, it fits?

Yes it will be a direct fit, but the wiring will be a lot of work.

I could do this for you, but I'm up in Vermont, where are you located?

There's many ways you could turbo your Celica:

1. You buy a turbo kit from Burien Toyota:
http://www.poweredbytoyota.com/ssfeturbo.html

2. 3S-GTE Swap:
Easiest thing to do is to buy a ST185 front clip and swap all the parts from there. Like JDLangevin said, the wiring is going to be the hardest part.

3. 5S-GTE:
This involves swapping the head from the 3S-GTE and using many other components from the 3S-GTE. A guy here on this board did this swap on his Corolla. This one is suggested if you're really going for big power. From what I hear, some 700HP+ MR2's are running this setup. A stand-alone ECU is recommended for this project.

4. 5S-FTE:
There's a parts list on what you can do to turbo your 5S-FE using mostly Toyota parts. It involves using a lot of parts from the 3S-GTE but the problem is that theres been many cases of people blowing their engine. The parts needed for this could run you for around $1,000.

I suggest you check out Celica.net, 6GC.net, and MR2OC.com for more info.

i am in Arizona i just moved here from MA, i think i might get the kit, is it anygood?

Unless your going to build an all out track car, you should just go with the 3s, You can get good "STREETABLE" power from it and Reliability wouldn't be much of an issue. Just get a Low miledge clip from Japan, anywhere from 1200-2000 dollars, It will have everything you need just make sure you get the ST185 clip. The problem is with such a light car, what seems like good HP can offten be TOO MUCH, you have to make sure you build it for HP, not torque, in a FF configuration all the torque will do is make you burn. So just make sure you build it right.

For the 5S-GTE:

How to put a 3S-GTE head on a 5SFE Block
I know this is a double post but it might be worth it for some of th NA owners.

Before we start talking about turbo charging, I want to let 5SFE owners know that they can also use the 3S-GTE head for NORMAL ASPIRATED application, but it would require custom made pistons to raise the compression ratio back to at least 9.5:1 or higher, about $550.00 and a custom made exhaust.

Now lets talk turbo ……Remember ……. There is no such thing as cheap turbo charging.

Things to think about before you start this project:

1.How much do I want to spend?
2.How much boost am I going to want?
3.How am I going to control all of this? …. Yes engine Management. I used an Autronic SMC

Engine Requirements:

1. Complete 3S-GTE head with cams, cam gear, timing belt tensioner, 3S-GTE cam belt and a complete inlet manifold..
2. Turbo setup. CT26 with exhaust requirements or what ever you want
3. 3S-GTE head gasket such as the TTE available in a 1.2 and 1.4 mm thickens
4. 3S-GTE oil pump. I am not sure if oil pressure and flow for the 5SFE oil pump is the same as that of the 3S-GTE, therefore my suggestion to use a 3S-GTE oil pump. Better safe than sorry.

Note: If you are going to build a high output motor I strongly suggest you get a set of connecting rods available from Pauter (www.pauter.com) and a set of Forged Wiseco Pistons available from any Wiseco dealer or me. Wiseco require dealers to order a minimum of eight pistons so it might be a good idea for potential 5 SFE turbo builders to do a Group Purchase.

Oil Supply for the Turbo:

This can be done by taping a 10 mm (3/8) elbow into the oil channel on the filter side of the block between the last two main crankshaft journals. Make sure the oil channel is thoroughly cleaned afterwards. There are also other methods to explore.

Now for the real thing…
Presuming that the 5 SFE engine is removed and stripped to the bare block.

1. Thoroughly clean the top of the block. Make sure it is 100% clean
2. Now give the cleaned area a coating of Mechanics Blue
3. Correctly place the head gasket you are going to use on top of the block
4. With a scribe, mark the positions of the water ports.
5. Remove the head gasket.

I used the following procedure to remove metal from the block. If you do not feel comfortable to do so, take the block to your local engineering works and let them do it for you. It should not cost more than say $60.00

Tools Required:
1. Center Punch
2. Slow speed drill
3. 5 mm Drill bit
4. 4 mm Tungsten Carbide burr

Procedure:
1. Center punch the areas to be drilled (these are the water port areas you marked).
2. Now with the drill and 5 mm bit, drill out all the areas marked. Normally two holes per water port. Make sure that you do not drill beyond the marked areas.
3. With the drill and 4 mm tungsten carbide burr remove all the remaining metal
4. Have the block “decked” by your local engineering works.
5. Assemble the engine as if it was a 3S-GTE
6. Make sure the oil supply and drainage, to and from the turbo, is sufficient.

Note: Get a 3S-GTE oil pan or have yours custom fitted with a return point for the turbo drain.

One more note.

The 3S-GTE-exhaust manifold fits the 5 SFE head. That means that you can use the very available CT26 turbo as a bolt on, on your 5 SFE engine, without going to a 3S-GTE head. How much HP? Don’t know but I am sure that 300 is fairly easily achievable…

Originally Posted by chrisk

http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=864


For the 5S-FTE:
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4296

For the 3S-GTE:
This should help you out if you have questions about it.
http://celica.net/cgi-bin/ultimateb...c;f=37;t=001324

The Burien kit?

http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php...te+pistons+5sfe

And yes, the 5S is basically a stroked 3S.

yeah the Burien Kit

I'ma look to see if anyone had any issues with the Burien kit.

True. Or a MR2 Turbo.

shoulda just got the ALLTRAC

thanks bladdermaster!

Read these:
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php...=6798&hl=burien
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4771&st=0
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5054&hl=