Engine This ground wire set worth it?

This ground wire set worth it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...&category=33574

Let me know, it looks cheap, but would it get the job done, and is it worth doing.

Not bad for the price... 4 guage is better though.

I really doubt youd notice much difference from 4 and 8 gauge wire on the ground wire system. Unless you had tons electric running through it.

Other than a bad ass sound system what's the advantage of a ground wire set upgrade?

4 ga would be better... u should check out the strand count difference... just think of it as this... how much water can u push though a 1/2 inch pvc pipe? how much water can u push through a 1 inch pvc pipe?

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I 2nd that.

true 4 gauge would be better. but 8 gauge is better than stock.

Get it!

If we are talking inside diameter, the 1" pipe holds 4x the amount of water as the 1/2" pipe. But will 4ga wire carry 4x the current of 8ga wire? Probably a mathematical formula beyond my ability. It does depend on strand count and diameter of the strands for the total surface area of the cable, I think...

i like the $18.99 for shipping hahaha

It really won't do anything... lol
What do you think toyota didn't take their electrical system into consideration?
If you have a huge amp or sub then its possibly feasible

They did-- they took into consideration what they could get away with and not cause electrical fires or degrade performance so badly that people wouldn't continue to buy the cars.

There's a point to where investing extra in making a subsystem "that much better" stops paying off. Look up "the law of diminishing returns" to gain a better understanding of this concept.

alaric right on... see the point... toyota developed the system to work very well... you can't really get better then OEM... we don't have millions and millions to produce a car... and we aren't electrical engineers.... so why would we always think bigger is better? lol...

lol... no it will not carry 4 times the current of a 8ga wire... i just that anology just to make ppl understand the difference...

using a larger wire with higher strand count will lower resistance within the electrical system... therefore reducing heat... and also stabilizing the electrical current within the system...

by doin so... your car will be more responsive... and idle better... and shift smoother... (applies to autos)

What I'm saying is, is there is room for improvement. They built it in such a way to mostly work well, but they didn't overengineer everything. They didn't want to spend so much effort trying to improve the electrical system, even when there was seemingly obvious room for improvement, because all those costs get passed on to the customer, anyway.

So, the grounding kits will help in some cases. I can tell by my lights dimming a bit when lowering the window while the engine is running that there is room to improve the grounding. On the other hand, they didn't make it so abysmal that using your cigar lighter would cause the engine to die.

A grounding kit can help, it won't add a huge amount of improvement, but there will be some there. If you have older wires anyway, then just replacing them might be worthwhile.

On my '65 Dart I replaced the 8ga ground with a 4ga ground, and my butt dynometer said I increased my power just a little bit. Starter cranked faster, anyway-- so maybe the old cable was just really really poor...

dunno bout u guys... but on the 20+ cars that ive installed this wiring kit for... they have said that its the best mod that they've invested for the buck... and i do drive their car first... and drive it again afterwards... i do notice a difference... and my clients also notice a difference too...

at first i didnt believe that a mod like this could do anything... but u dont know nuthin till u actually try it out.. just my 0.02...

addin this mod to your car is not like addin a turbo to ur car... its not that big of a difference... but its a noticible difference...