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    corollarider19 New Member

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    The bush admin

    Just a little rant here. I dunno what everybody on this site thinks but iam sick of hearing about it. The current issue is cheney and the shooting. This should of never happined. Still in the news is the handling of katrina. Several high ranking people have been charged with crimes. I think that this admin is one of the worst of my time. I know iam young still but i doubt that i will see worse.
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    JLee TD05 3SGTE

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    Cheney's accident is completely unrelated to the Bush administration.
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    JspeXAE102 Well-Known Member

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    That incident is blown way out of proportion, no way in hell does that little private matter affect the nation as a whole.
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    Not to justify the media, but I can at least see what they are saying (I dont agree!) that if Cheney is irresponsible enough to shoot some one on a hunting trip what makes him qualified to run a country. I mean, I don't agree but I can see where they are coming from...or at least what angle they are taking. Its kinda funny if you ask me.


    ...but yes, there are more important things...like..yanno....bird flu...it could possibly kill some one in America at some point in the near to never future...yeah.
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    corollarider19 New Member

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    how doesnt it? the man admitted to having a few drinks with meds before he went out to shoot. it indirectly has an effect on his position. it making him look like the laughing stock. i can pretty much garantee that the next election there will not be a republican president. the upcomming state elections the power will swtich from repub to democrate.
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    JLee TD05 3SGTE

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    Cheney alone is not the entire Bush administration. This accident was blown way out of proportion.

    We'll see about the next presidential election - I don't have any idea who's running..
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    :superconf
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    Everyone seemed to think so with Clinton:rolleyes:
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    **** the whole cheney thing could have happened to anyone. hello, its a risk of going hunting... duh.
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    e_andree E

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    Yeah, the hunting incident shouldnt even be in the news anymore....it was a mistake.
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    its just a way for Bush haters to be heard even more... who cares. The media needs to focus on whats important.
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    corollarider19 New Member

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    yeah like the wmds that were found right or the loss of thousands of americans over a war we are not winning it seems
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    Did you read that article?
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    Im in the military... I know whats going on right now. Not the total BS the media feed you. Dont you have a sweater to go knit or something?
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    Yeah, and my job allows me to talk to residents of Baghdad, Beirut, Fallujah, Najaf, Cairo, etc every single day.....Matt, you bring up these debates, but you never have any basis or anything to support your views.
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    Let's see.

    Hunting accident...or...lying under oath..hmm.
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    The Bush Admin. has a history of not backing down or admitting they are wrong when facts come to light proving them so. I think the media used this as an opportunity to see if Cheney would take responsibility for something that was clearly his fault. Initially, he didn't make any comments stating the incident was his fault, but he was forced to when the media started to have a field day with the whole thing.

    This is nothing more than a funny example of the Bush Admin's "shoot first, ask questions later" style of politics.
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    lol I'm in the military and I have no idea what's going on. :) I'm a peon, not a cabinet member. I was in Baghdad too. Yeah the media is normally pretty off, which is kinda scary, but I'm not going to say I have an inside track to information. I'm no James Bond.
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    polo708 New Member

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    yeah, I did my time in the sandbox also... its nice how the media shows all the negatives and not us rebuilding schools, passing out food and water, and stuffed bears to kids with a blown off limb from a suicide bomber. Oh well, you all can believe what you want to believe but we need to be there.
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    Paolino SolidTuned

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    Yeah but by the same token, not to be insensative, if a people want change enough, they will eventually realize there are more of them and will revolt. [Or at least that sounds good in my mind. lol]

    Its all spin. Doesn't really bother me. Most of the time I'm too lazy to watch the news anyway. :)
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    Yeah, it sounds good in your mind. But there no way the Iraqis would be able to revolt against the Hussein family.

    My uncle throws stuffed animals and toys down to the kids from their helicopters.....is helping rebuild the hospitals, schools, power plants, business's, etc.....

    The voter turnout last year was a higher percentage than the US election turnouts over the last 20 years.....and no US polling station has ever been under a suicide bomber scare....nor over that 20 years, were women entering the polls for the first time.

    I do agree that the US government needs to set some goals of when we'll be pulling out....cuz Irans next.
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    Doesnt matter where the media stands its my personal view point. I dont belive we have done a thing over there. We have made big stones in to smaller ones. We dont need to be over there since when was it put on us to police the entire world? Its useless even when we pull out iraq will go back to the way it was. Just my view. Btw iam glad polo that you are serving in the military i support you but you cant knock me just because of a personal viewpoint on something.
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    Its your personal view point, but its based on the media because that is your only information outlet.

    Your statement about Iraq going back to the way it was after we pull out proves that. And we can knock you all we want, expecially since your "viewpoints" are so shallow and naive, and lacking the correct information. It IS the debate forum.
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    dont have any problems with getting knocked for it.. i do watch the news i read the newspapers what else am i to rely on for my information. I know service people who have come back and said that we are not doing a **** thing over there. I guess that for me to be correct i would have to go over myself and take a look see
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    Ive rarely talked to someone that has been stationed over there that doesnt come back with an appreciation of what we're doing over there.

    If rebuilding schools, power plants, buildings, giving the women rights, taking away the fear of dying every single day, abolishing a dangerous, murderous and torturous dictatorship......giving the children an education and toys and food....rebuilding the communication system....rebuilding a democratic government run by the people....if all of that means jack ****, the people youre talking too are heartless.
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    no i didnt say that yes its helping the people out but some wonder what is going to occur in the long run when we are not there to run every single aspect..
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    I think theyll do okay for themselves....either way, it wont be a dicatorship run by a twisted and morbid family of murderers.
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    not right away but i think down the line it will just go back to the way it started
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    how can you say that? They have an entire government that is set up now, it's no longer a dictatorship. Also, they have their military and police units up and operational... we are just there to help provide manning until all their people are trained and ready.

    Do you understand that these people hate us?? All they do all day long is think up ways to hit convoys and shoot down helo's. Then in their off time they run down to the market place to kill a few innocent mothers and children for no real reason. Just imagine what they would do without us there... it would literally be hell.

    Im not saying you dont have an opinion, but the way you talk about it is that you truly know whats going on and you dont. from the few months that I was there... if I had to live there every day of my life I would kill myself (just myself, not in a marketplace haha). There is NO feeling of security, no daily routine, no jobs, no nothing for these people. that is what we are there changing.

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