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Engine Question - Corolla XRS vs Matrix/Celica vs Lotus engine

Discussion in 'Powertrain' started by GSE21tuner, May 7, 2007.

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    GSE21tuner Formerly rollatuner110. Representing AZLexus.club

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    Its strictly in the tuning. Cams and engine management. Next time do a search. Its all been answered.
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    Question - Corolla XRS vs Matrix/Celica vs Lotus engine

    Hello group - I'm new here to Toyotas so forgive me if this question has been answered a million times.

    Can anybody tell me or point me in the right direction to answer the following question.....

    What is different about theses engines and the power output??
    2005 Toyota Corolla XRS at 170hp
    Matrix XRS rated at 180 hp
    Celica GTS rated at 180+hp
    Lotus Elise rated at 190 hp

    Is it cams, exhaust, ECU, etc.....

    Please shed some light on this answer......
    e-mail me or catch me back here.

    Thanks in advance!!!!!
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    shubert_ae102 New Member

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    also the 2zz in the lotus , has less distance and mechanics to travel thru to reach the wheels , also shorter and straiter flow for the intake and exhaust . some mateix are awd , and the xrs corolla is fwd . this has alot to do with it also. also , auto or manual? . but yes some does have to do with the tuning , but not by much , simple things like bends in the exhaust and intake to accomidate the specific car that the engine is in. i want someone to show me the difference in cams , ecu , and tuning between the celica , matrix , and corolla . theres not . the only difference is the ecu for either manual or auto , but if you notice the intake and exhaust plumbing on all are different , the corolla and the matrix are the only 2 that favor drastically. the 2zz in the lotus is the only 1 with a slightly factory tweaked ecu. some members need to know or do there research before they just post the first thing that comes to mind . jtweezy is right , go over to 9th gen , where there is more knowledge of the 2zz . also try vvt-i.net . there are 2zz related forums on there .

    and if not mistaken , please correct me if im wrong , dont the corolla and matrix have 2zz-fe where as the lotus and celicas have 2zz-ge? the difference there is the heads. both are yamaha designed , f for economy , and g for performance .(i didnt even know the g- head existed for the 2zz. what year did that happen?) im a 4a and 3s junkie all day , but this info is out there in just about any spo com mag you pick up these days . hell sport compact car mag , just had an article last month on how there street preped mr-s beat up on a lotus , on the track . so like i said , correct me if im wrong.
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    rainbow_star New Member

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    It's ALL about turning. It's nothing to do with FF, FR, or AWD, auto or manual since it's hp, not whp.
    And corolla XRS and Matrix XRS are both 2ZZ-GE. There is no 2ZZ-FE.
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    jtweezy New Member

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    what car do you have??? just get a apexi pfc or hydra ems and you'll be up there... your better off coming over to www.9thgencorolla.com All 2zzge owners are over there...
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    No such thing as a 2zzfe.....
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    GSE21tuner Formerly rollatuner110. Representing AZLexus.club

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    The AWD Matrix drivetrain is also very weak so adding more power to the motor isn't a smart idea. I remember Duwayne wanted to make an AWD corolla with it. I laugh at him.
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    also, the Matrix with AWD does NOT, i repeat does NOT have the 2ZZGE.
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    it does have to do with it , considering the ecus for the auto and manual are different. you cant take a auto ecu and put it on a manual engine , without reflashing it. vice versa . as far as the 2zz-fe , i dont know wtf i was thinking. i guess the 1zz. but in fact the only differences in the engines performance #'s are the bends in intake and exhaust and the fact of auto or manual ecu's .

    and uh ..... is it about tuning or turning? :)
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    nope , just like any corolla , that toyota produced in awd , it has the smaller engine . kinda like the 6th and 7th gen all tracs have the 4afe. it has to do with torque and economy.<br />
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    i still dont know what the hell i was thinking about that 2zz fe. isnt the 1zz an fe? i do think so. like i said , im a 3s and 4a head all day.
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    LOL, sorry my spelling sux big time :D :D :D

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