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News Plan B-----Morning After Pill

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    Plan B-----Morning After Pill

    Im not sure what I think about this.....I think this will just lead to more promiscuous sex regardless of the fact that you have to be 18 to buy it. Kids under 18 get alcohol and cigs, theyll get these as well. Theyll get their 18 year old friend to go in and get them a whole bunch. It will also lead to spreading more STDs! (EDIT, just read that a 2 pill pack will run 25-40 bucks...which will deter some youngins, but not all!)

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/08/24/morning.after.pill.ap/index.html

    Morning-after pill to be available without prescription
    Buyers must prove they're 18 or older

    Thursday, August 24, 2006; Posted: 12:32 p.m. EDT (16:32 GMT)

    Plan B will be available over the counter to women 18 or older, the Food and Drug Administration says.
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    The morning-after pill prevents pregnancy but has no effect if a woman already is pregnant. Sold under the brand name Plan B, it's a higher-than-normal dose of a hormone found in regular birth-control pills and prevents ovulation or fertilization of an egg. It also may prevent the egg from implanting into the uterus, the medical definition of pregnancy, but recent research suggests that's not likely.

    The abortion pill, RU-486 or Mifeprex, can terminate pregnancy up to 49 days after the beginning of the last menstrual cycle. It's a two-pill process. First is Mifeprex, which blocks production of a hormone required to sustain pregnancy. Then a second medicine, misoprostol, to cause contractions and finish the abortion.

    Girls 17 and younger still will need a doctor's note to buy the pills, called Plan B, the FDA told manufacturer Barr Pharmaceuticals Inc.

    The compromise decision is a partial victory for women's advocacy and medical groups that say eliminating sales restrictions could cut in half the nation's 3 million annual unplanned pregnancies. Opponents have argued that wider access could increase promiscuity.

    The long delay had ensnared President Bush's nominee to head the FDA. On Thursday, two senators said they would lift their blockade, making confirmation of Dr. Andrew von Eschenbach as FDA's commissioner likely next month.

    Talking to reporters Thursday aboard Air Force One as Bush headed to Kennebunkport, Maine, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said the president "appreciates that the FDA did an exhaustive review, that they recognized the critical distinction between minors and adults and the risks a drug like this could pose."

    Noting the restrictions the agency attached to its approval, Perino added, "I'm sure the FDA will follow through on that and make sure these important conditions are established and enforced."

    Drug cuts pregnancy risk
    The pills are a concentrated dose of the same drug found in many regular birth-control pills. Taken within 72 hours of unprotected sex, a woman can lower the risk of pregnancy by up to 89 percent. If she already is pregnant, the pills have no effect.

    The earlier it's taken, the more effective Plan B is. But it can be hard to find a doctor to write a prescription in time, especially on weekends and holidays. Hence the push to allow nonprescription sales.

    Barr has said it hopes to begin nonprescription sales of Plan B by the end of the year. The pills will be sold only from behind the counter at pharmacies, so the pharmacist can check photo identification. It will not be sold at convenience stores or gas stations.

    There isn't enough scientific evidence that young teens can safely use Plan B without a doctor's supervision, von Eschenbach said in a memo.

    But Barr did prove that over-the-counter use is safe for older teens and adults -- and licensed pharmacies are used to checking for proof of age 18 before selling tobacco and certain other products, von Eschenbach wrote in explaining the agency's age cutoff.

    "This approach should help ensure safe and effective use of the product," he concluded.

    Plan B's maker was disappointed that FDA imposed the age restriction and pledged to continue working the agency to try to eliminate it.

    "While we still feel that Plan B should be available to a broader age group without a prescription, we are pleased that the Agency has determined that Plan B is safe and effective for use by those 18 years of age and older as an over-the-counter product," said Bruce L. Downey, Barr's chairman.

    Age-restriction battle
    The age restriction remains controversial even inside FDA, agency drugs chief Dr. Steven Galson told The Associated Press Thursday. Galson has acknowledged overruling his staff scientists' opinion in 2004 that nonprescription sales would be safe for all ages.

    "Let me be frank, there still are disagreements," Galson said in an interview. "There were disagreements from the first second this application came in the house."

    But, "I'm convinced adolescents are a different group, they require special analyses, sometimes special data," he added.

    As a condition of approval, Barr agreed to track whether pharmacists are enforcing the age restriction, by, among other things, sending anonymous shoppers to buy Plan B. FDA said Barr is to conduct that formal tracking at least twice in the first year of sales and annually thereafter, and report stores that break the rules to their state pharmacy licensing boards.

    But Barr also will conduct a national education campaign to raise awareness of emergency contraception, among both women and health providers.

    The two-pill pack of Plan B today costs from $25 to $40; Barr hasn't said whether it will raise the price. Planned Parenthood, already a main dispenser of the pills, expects some insurers to continue covering prescription sales for those who seek the drug that way. But which way is cheaper depends on a woman's insurance.

    A Barr spokeswoman estimated that pharmacists dispense about 1.5 million packs a year.

    Nine states -- Washington, California, New Mexico, Alaska, Hawaii, Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts and Vermont -- already allow women of any age to buy Plan B without a doctor's prescription from certain pharmacies. Proponents of those pharmacy access programs believe that minors won't see any change in those states, because the pharmacist already technically writes a prescription.

    Politics vs. science
    The FDA approved prescription-only sales of Plan B in 1999, and the quest to sell nationwide without a doctor's note began in 2003. That year, the agency's independent scientific advisers overwhelmingly backed nonprescription sales for all ages, and FDA's staff scientists agreed.

    But higher-ranking officials rejected that decision, citing concern about young teens' use of the pills without a doctor's oversight. Barr reapplied, asking that women 16 and older be allowed to buy Plan B without a prescription. Then, last August, the FDA postponed a final decision indefinitely, saying the agency needed to determine how to enforce those age restrictions.

    FDA's handling of Plan B sparked a firestorm: Critics charged that political ideology had trumped science; a reproductive-rights group sued to force FDA to settle the issue; and congressional auditors concluded the agency may have made decisions without reviewing all the evidence.

    Still, nationwide nonprescription sales were widely consider a doomed issue until last month, when the FDA reversed itself and said it would reconsider if Barr agreed to an age 18 restriction. That surprise announcement came on the eve of a Senate committee hearing on whether to confirm von Eschenbach as FDA's new head.

    On Thursday, Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, and Patty Murray, D-Washington, said they would lift their roadblock to his full Senate confirmation.

    "While we urge the FDA to revisit placing age restrictions on the sale of Plan B, it is real progress that millions of American women will now have increased access to emergency contraception," they said in a joint statement.

    Proponents hailed the victory but had hoped for more.

    "While I am glad that the drumbeat for a return to a science-based FDA has had some positive impact, this decision still represents a compromise, one that could have the unintended consequence of hurting young women's health," said Dr. Susan Wood, who resigned as FDA's women's health chief to protest the agency's 2005 delay.

    But opponent Wendy Wright, president of Concerned Women for America, said Plan B's wider availability could give women a false sense of security, since it isn't as effective as regular birth control. Wright also worries that adult men who have sex with minor girls could force the pills upon them.

    The FDA said men 18 and older will be able to buy the pills without a prescription.
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    Let the humping begin.
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    Good stuff :D
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    I think its a bad idea
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    i'm with you eric...

    they're basically removing the responsibility of having sex. its almost like the common thought against the wide range of STD's which they have cures for... people get the notion of ' oh well, i'll just go get cleaned up ' because the odds are in their favor that they won't contract something uncurable in the process. now removing the pregnancy factor and with the vaccination against HIV on the horizon, we're opening up a huge can of worms. being a father of a daughter (who is quite obviously is gonna turn into a hottie) it freaks me. i'm not so concerned about the choices my daughter will make (because thats up to me as a parent to teach her how to handle the situation in a responsable manner) but it doesnt help the pressures that will be around her will be insane. because im tellin ya, 75% or more of parents don't give a shit what their kids are up to.
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    I don't completely disagree with it and this is why:

    One of the big arguements was that its going to increase promiscuous sex. My opinion on it though is that the sex is more or less inevitable. How can you say that one pill is going to increase sexual activity amongst people when first graders are getting caught trying to have sex on school busses. Not only that a vast majority of women are on birth control all through high school for what ever reason they see fit. Obviously any one that would buy the Plan B is having sex or will be having sex before they purchase it.

    Also, as far as the 18 to purchase thing goes you have to keep in mind that the people selling the pill are in pharmacies, not convinience stores. I still get carded for glue when I buy it at any grocery store--let alone cigs or beer and I'm 21. The people selling the drugs are professionals that actually care about their jobs rather than some 24 year old guy working at a convinience store that couldn't care one way or the other. Furthermore, I know for a fact that if you walk into planned parenthood you don't have to be 18 to get the pill. No doctors note, no parents...nothing.

    Hopefully my points come through as coherent thoughts because I just spent all morning in classes listening to political theory and I think my head is going to explode.
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    Promsicuous sex WILL increase because the people that wouldnt normally have sex because they are scared of getting pregnant will see this as just one more option if they were to get pregnant. And it will be even twofold among uneducated people having sex.

    Those that go through the process of getting pills are at least educated enough to take that step. In some states, you have to parental consent to get the birth control pill. Those are the states that will probably sell more of these Plan B pills. And if someone wants these pills, theyll get em, no matter of age.
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    Not trying to sound like a smart ass or a pessimist or that I'm trying to discredit you, but what population are you talking about? I see the point you are making, but coming from some one who has gone through HS recently and is well into college the people that are too scared to have sex are very few and far between. That is based on both private catholic schools as well as public schools/universities. Times have changed drastically to the point where 50 years ago this would be absurd but today its something that is virtually needed. I don't want to sound like I'm promoting careless sex, but if its going to happen at least more options are available just in case something horrible happens.

    The only thing I see as being inevitable is the pill getting abused, not by minors, but by people that assume the pill is 100% effective and safe. After repeative use it can start to have negative side effects. Like I said though I don't entirely disagree with it. I do realize that there are pros and cons. If used as its intended to it then rock on, but unfortunately there will be those that abuse it..
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    I personally don't see a problem with this - granted always some potential for abuse by a small group for any product, but does not outweight at least giving women a choice in the matter.

    As for promoting promiscuity - hard to say. Kids are better educated about sex than previous generations - with emphasis on STDs, birth control, planned parenthood, etc. Even I got much more than my parents, information-wise from school, they basically got the boys have a penis, girls have a vagina, end of lesson.

    I could see how this could be taken as a ticket to unbridled sexual behavior - but now one can say what will really happen. Kind of the same argument for raising the speed limit from 55 MPH to 65 MPH - remember all the hype that surrounded it (some of you might be too young to remember that, ie. not driving at the time, 1987-1988). Some politicians, law enforcement agencies, and general public safety advocate groups screamed bloddy murder - that the streets would be filled with blood, carnage, death toll will skyrocket, and our limited resources will be squandered away. What end up happening - death toll and accidents dropped about 3% on average and overall gasoline usage increase by about 1% (studies done by US DOT and DOE + University of Califonia, Irvine) - so much for the bloodbath.

    Like was mentioned above - people that are going to have sex, will have sex, regardless if the OTC - morning after pill was on the market or not. People are smart enough to make their own decisions about life, I would rather see options available for people - this includes abstinence as well as all other birth control options.
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    I don't see how this is a bad idea. It will prevent unwanted pregnancy and hopefully reduce the amount of kids that grow up in welfare with families that can't afford to have kids in the first place. What needs to go along with this is more sex education so kids and adults know about it. Special interest groups don't believe in sex education. They think sex shouldn't happen in the first place, but you can stop that from happening.
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    even with current birth control systems the population growth in the united states is down. you read all the time about schools closing due to lack of enrollment, add that to the pot :p
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    Which is exactly what Im saying.

    Must be your region, because our schools are overflowing to the point that it is becoming a safety hazard.
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    Yeah the schools here are out of control, but then again they aren't exactly all about building new schools either.
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    The only thing I think this will lead to is more unsafe sex. 'Youngins' are already having sex. I dont think these pills will encourage more sex, but more sex without the use of condoms and thus leading to more STD transfers. Im indefferent about the pills.
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    Ehh, I don't like it; makes me feel uneasy. Someone up there hit it on the head with the lowering of responsibility factor. People may be more likely to have unprotected sex seeing that they have a pregnancy out and open themselves up to STDs. HIV is scary but Herpes and HPV are apparantly in 1 out of 4 people. There is no cure, and you have to live the rest of your life with it. Some people say oh well you made the choice and got what you deserve, but I can't see myself as saying that about someone. No one deserves to have STDs. Its sad that one bad decision can haunt them like that.

    Condoms were pretty effective for std and pregnancy control I'm guessing, although not 100%, because they can break etc etc. But now this pill is showing people that you can have sex without the condom; a dangerous way of thinking..
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    um.... cant decide on it being good or bad....
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    I totally agree with this. People that shouldn't be having sex (e.g. 14 yr olds) are going to have sex whether there is a morning after pill or not. Having the pill available just makes it easier for them to undoe a life altering mistake. The pill also gives rape victims an easy way out. I can see how the availability of the pill could make people more promiscuous but I think the benefits of being able to avoid conception outweigh the costs of more promiscuity.

    On the subject of stds I think that as long as the public is well educated the availability of the pill will not make disease more prevalent. Its up to the people who use it to treat it as a backup, not a preventative measure.

    I think this all goes back to the question of pro or anti abortion. Personally I believe that people should have the right to choose Whether or not they are going to bring another life into this world.
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    Its the same thing as birth control except you dont need to see a doctor for it and you take it AFTER sex
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    yo

    yup I agree
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    Pan B is only 89% effective. For someone using this pretty often, the odds arent that great.

    You agree with WHAT?
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    Tuche sir, tuche. I still hold that if used responsibly and a proper amount of education is offered about the product it, in its truest nature, is a step-forward. Unfortunetly though only time will tell if it will be abused or not.
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    iam all for this... but we also need to push safe sex more then what we do

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