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octane boosters

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    crb530 Member

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    octane boosters

    hey i was wondering if any one has used any octain boosters and if so do they really help for track races

    what brands are good ones



    thanks
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    SaberJ2X Lurk MOAR

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    none, for the rollas...
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    GSE21tuner Formerly rollatuner110. Representing AZLexus.club

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    It doesn't do that much good. You're better off using real 100+ octane race fuel.
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    cgreen38 Common sense, p

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    What's the point?

    And using high-octane leaded fuel is pointless without extensive modification and tuning for your car to be able to handle it.
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    GSE21tuner Formerly rollatuner110. Representing AZLexus.club

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    Very true. It's the same as using premium instead of regular gas in our cars. Just wasting money.
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    it's spelled octane
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    well... only worth while stuff to do would be, amplifying the ignition, and advancing ignition timing... to start...
    then you gotta raise the compression just to make it little harder on the gas, for that fuel to completely burn.

    then I really dun know what else you gotta mod.... the upping the compression part is optional
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    Well the reason for higher octane is for higher compression engines, or else the fuel will combust prematurely. So like every one else said in our engines its pointless, unless its rebuilt for higher compression.
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    alright thanks guys

    i was just wondering if there was a cheep way to give me some more speed without having to do major mods


    sorry about the spelling
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    GSE21tuner Formerly rollatuner110. Representing AZLexus.club

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    High octane gas is not cheap. LOL :D Cheap power doesn't really exist. Intake, header, and exhaust is as basic as you can get.
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    haha i have all thoughs i just need a little bit more edge so i can beet my friends on the track

    im so close maybe half a car lol

    p.s. its not street racing it is all done on a private track
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    GSE21tuner Formerly rollatuner110. Representing AZLexus.club

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    If it's just half a car length, eliminate the slack in your throttle cable and practice on shortening your reaction times and perfecting your launch. Skill will overcome power in these instances.
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    i dont quite understand how to take up the slack

    would a short shifter help much

    also is half a car on a good race haha

    im racing a ford focus zx3 with intake header back and chiped and

    short shifter
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    GSE21tuner Formerly rollatuner110. Representing AZLexus.club

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    Short shifter will help as well. Polyurethane engine mounts will also improve launch. Here's the diy on how to eliminate the slack. http://vamp.darkravers.net/cpg/thumbnails.php?album=75 But why worry about going fast in a straight line. That's no fun. Throw some curves in there to mix it up. :D
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    yeah i didnt fully understand vamps diy but thanks

    haha i would love to i love runs like that but there so hard to find down in my area
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    fishexpo101 Get Some

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    Also have to remember that octane boosters only add a couple of points to the fuel that you pour it into. Points, just like in carats for gemstones. So if a can says adds 6 points to a tank of gas (assume that you have a full tank of 87 octane, one can for every 10 gallons) - then it will mean that 6 points added to your tank will only raise the octane from 87 to 87.6! Not even close to being worth it on a basically stock system. If you want high octane - they generally sell that on the track - usually around $6-$10 a gallon. Have to watch it, many tracks still sell "leaded" gasoline - don't want to make a stupid mistake and run that in the car.

    Want to have the easiest edge in track racing for the best price/least effort - lighten the car. Lightweight wheels and tires (don't run large diameter alloys, unless they are decent ones - remember the larger tires will also weight more). Get rid of all the crap in the trunk, lose unnecessary weight inside the cabin (seats, etc.), run with less gas in the tank (each gallon is 6 - 6.5 lbs), lower tire pressures just a hair to improve traction (not too much, still want to have enough to support the sidewall and tire carcass integrity.) Every 10lb drop gets you an effective 0.4 - 0.8 HP gain - ie, powertrain has less of a load on it.

    Short shifter, solid engine mounts, drop the suspension, practicing launch techniques, better rubber, performance clutch and pressure plate, good tune up, etc. are all easy mods that will not change the character of the engine (ie. not messing with the engine)and make sure that you are making most of your available power.

    Engine mods - you have to go big or go home. The engines are pretty well optimized - mave to pump money and time into it to get tangible results. Cheap way is nitrous - if done correctly, the least expensive way to get more power. Added to that - support for Toyota Corollas are harder and harder to find - most end up going a custom route for big power. Even typical bolt ons have mixed results - given enough time and effort with tuning and a decent programmable air/fuel/timing computer (eManage, Camcom, Unichip, Megasquirt, Hydra, etc.) - you can get the most from your mods.

    Also technique is important if you plan on dragging for fun. You'll run into terms like staging shallow or deep and the effect of rollout on ETs and your trap speed. Of course, depends on the track as well - some automatically account for this effect - need to know if it does or not and what it will do to your "true" times.

    Here is a good picture from C&D - nicely illustrates one of the "cheats" in drag racing.
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    wow dude thanks for all that info

    i didnt know about all that hahah

    sweet thanks
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    corolla is not made for speed. if you want speed go for another car. any money put into a corolla to go "fast" is 99.999% a waste.
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    crb530 Member

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    ok yeah i wont be able to go as fast as a turboed car but corollas still have some power and a corolla is what i have not another car

    thats y i asked
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    GSE21tuner Formerly rollatuner110. Representing AZLexus.club

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    Keep it fun to drive. You can make it quick. Just don't bother to make it fast because it will never be. I'm getting a second car for that exact reason. :)
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    .001? I like those odds.
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    I love this forum. Someone's also there to tell you what a huge waste of time and money modifying a corolla is.
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    LOL :D But people do it anyways despite all that. That's what I call hardcore inspiration. :)
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    I do like the look on peoples faces when they go:

    wtfIwasownedbyacorolla! :ninjastea
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    crb530 Member

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    seriouly

    corollas are fun to drive

    im buying a mazda speed 3 in the spring that will be my fast car


    but im also selling the corolla in the spring i will be very sad to see her go
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    mazda speed 3 is scary to drive. all the torque steer. it has too much power for a FWD car.. i dont' like it.
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    The MS3 will be my next car. Btw, it has barely has any torque steer at all.
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    i love driving the ms3 it has the power that i want and need

    your just jelious that they beat wrxs
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    ^I just wish MS3 was AWD. it would me it such a better car... I love 'hot hatches"
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    AWD wouldve been more expensive. As it is the MS3 is the best deal for 25 grand. IMO

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