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News New Orleans Police beating on video

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    New Orleans Police beating on video

    I actually am on the fence on this one.....I think the charges on the police officers will come from witness accounts, not from what is seen on the video....its obvious he is resisting arrest, and hitting him like that is allowed, especially since he was still resisting! Im sure the officers are under a tremendous amount of stress...even more so than they usually are under.

    Seems that the department itself is corrupt.....on paper, 500 cops walked off the job, yet only 200-250 can be PHYSICALLY located....which makes ya wonder if those other 250 officers actually EVER existed in teh first place....so wheres that money going???



    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051009/ap_on_re_us/new_orleans_taped_beating

    NEW ORLEANS - Two New Orleans police officers repeatedly punched a 64-year-old man accused of public intoxication, and another city officer assaulted an Associated Press Television News producer as a cameraman taped the confrontations.

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    There will be a criminal investigation, and the three officers were to be suspended, arrested and charged with simple battery Sunday, Capt. Marlon Defillo said.

    "We have great concern with what we saw this morning," Defillo said after he and about a dozen other high-ranking police department officials watched the APTN footage Sunday. "It's a troubling tape, no doubt about it. ... This department will take immediate action."

    The assaults come as the department, long plagued by allegations of brutality and corruption, struggles with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and the resignation last month of Police Superintendent Eddie Compass.

    The APTN tape shows an officer hitting the man at least four times in the head Saturday night as he stood outside a bar near Bourbon Street. The suspect, Robert Davis, appeared to resist, twisting and flailing as he was dragged to the ground by four officers. One of the four then kneed Davis and punched him twice. Davis was face-down on the sidewalk with blood streaming down his arm and into the gutter.

    Meanwhile, a fifth officer ordered APTN producer Rich Matthews and the cameraman to stop recording. When Matthews held up his credentials and explained he was working, the officer grabbed the producer, leaned him backward over a car, jabbed him in the stomach and unleashed a profanity-laced tirade.

    "I've been here for six weeks trying to keep ... alive. ... Go home!" shouted the officer, who later identified himself as S.M. Smith.

    Police said Davis, 64, of New Orleans, was booked on public intoxication, resisting arrest, battery on a police officer and public intimidation. He was treated at a hospital and released into police custody.

    "The incidents taped by our cameraman are extremely troubling," said Mike Silverman, AP's managing editor. "We are heartened that the police department is taking them seriously and promising a thorough investigation."

    Davis, who is black, was subdued at the intersection of Conti and Bourbon streets. Three of the officers appeared to be white, and the other is light skinned. The officer who hit Matthews is white. Defillo said race was not an issue.

    Three of the five officers — including Smith — are New Orleans officers, and two others appeared to be federal officers. Numerous agencies have sent police to help with patrols in the aftermath of Katrina.

    Under normal circumstances, it takes unusually offensive behavior to trigger an arrest on Bourbon Street. But New Orleans police have been working under stressful conditions since the hurricane.

    Officers slept in their cars and worked 24-hour shifts after the storm. Three-quarters lost their homes and their families are scattered across the country.

    "Our police officers are working under some very trying times," Defillo said. "So it's a difficult time, but it doesn't excuse what our jobs are supposed to be."

    Many officers deserted their posts in the days after Katrina, and some were accused of joining in the looting that broke out. At least two committed suicide.

    Conditions have improved — officers now have beds on a cruise ship — but they don't have private rooms and are still working five, 12-hour days.

    Compass, the police superintendent, resigned Sept. 27. Despite more than 10 years of reform efforts dating to before he took office, police were dogged by allegations of brutality and corruption.

    On Friday, state authorities said they were investigating allegations that New Orleans police broke into a dealership and made off with nearly 200 cars — including 41 new Cadillacs — as the storm closed in.
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    i dont think he was resisting when they first started hitting him.
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    i want another source to watch video, streaming that video is resulting in freeze frames with no moving video.
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    saw it on cnn... that much force was definitely not necessary. that was terrible.
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    I saw that on CNN too a couple of hrs ago and dude they were abusing their authority.... dude the poor guy was like 64-65 yrs old man, fuck that... and a cop threatened the guy that shot the video and pushing him and yelling at him too man that's police brutality.
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    Yeah, it started out by the book, but once he was down on teh ground, they took it too far.

    The CNN footage is from above, the APTN footage is from the street
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    They have been under alot of stress, but that was excessive force. Yea i'm not suprised they did that. Most new orleans cops are assholes (i know from personal experience, i live in new orleans). There are very very few good ones.
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    hmm...they punched the guy in the face several times while he was standing, not resisting arrest...then once on the ground, four officers were standing around him, or should i say on top of him. One officer was trying to restrain him by improperly grabbing the guys arm in a fashion that looks like he was strangling him instead while another officer held his other arm at the wrist and it showed how limp it was to resistance.....the guy didnt resist nor did he make any actions before or during the use of force that would suggest that he resisted to a point where officers would need to pull such drastic moves...after they have the guy on the ground (fully restrained), an APTN reporter (Rich Matthews) was confronted by an officer and the officer starts yelling at the reporter, physically pushes him back into a car until his back is leaned over on it, yells "ive been here for six weeks, something something alive, *bleep* blah blah....go home!!!" and punches the reporter in the stomach somewhere in this....it shows how mentally drained and frustrated they are but they're still working organizations under our government that should be kept in check....there is also another video from someone who filmed from a balcony. It shows the intoxicated man in question twitching about on the ground face down, with a thick 8 foot trail of blood draining from his face to the street....when he lifts his head, officers nudged him with their boots....sh*t, like he was gonna go anywhere or do anything. He was only tryin to sit up, which eventually he did....
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    Well, it wasnt an 8 foot trail of blood, and he wasnt twitching....and the man recording from above is a CNN videographer. And he DID start out resisting arrest....regardless, there was no need for the physical abuse against him.

    The court system will hopefully do its job and punish these officers.
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    the trail of blood, i just estimated figuring he was a 6 foot buy laying two feet from the street, its on the balcony video. The twitching was my impression of what i got also from the balcony videos....i had to rewatch it on this website but what i saw from the video was were i got all that from...
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    Ill post up the unedited, full versions of both videos....
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    the 64 year old was a retired high school teacher that did not drink a drop of alchohol that evening or for the past 25 years according to cnn.com!

    aint that some shit!
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    well if he was intoxicated then then force could be used but they stepped over the line of being excessive. right now the police department down there needs help i think i heard 5 officers so far have killed themselfs and many have just walked off the job. i think the officers should be repramanded but not fired.
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    hopefully so....
    somethings telling me theyll get away w/ it tho

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