Engine New here, Question about Supercharger.

New here, Question about Supercharger.

Hi,

Can anybody give me some suggestions how TRD Supercharger benefit my Corolla S 03?

I am buying a TRD Supercharger very soon, so I need some tips and information.

Thanks.

Well, more power and torque, so that'll equate to having a faster car than what you have now. Still have the same factory warranty if installed by the dealer. Other than that, I can't think of anything else. You could raise the psi on the supercharger by changing the pulley. What are you looking to know exactly? What can be done to the supercharger?

umm.. it makes it faster

not just faster... but fastAr.

it'll give you the supercharger whine.

do you have an auto or stick? on average...if you run 6PSI(good for regular street usage) on an auto tranny it'll boost you approx 40HP...more if you're a stick.

hehe-it gives you hte best sound ever-sharp whining sound every time you rev! watch hooolala's video! i forgot the link..anyone know it?

What other mods is recommanded for Supercharger.

Thanks for the tips.

I am just wondering what's the difference between Supercharger VS Turbo. I have no idea which one to get. I haven't modify much about my car from the outside & engine.

Is there anything that I need to know when having a Supercharger installed? What other mods should I do if I have install a Supercharger?

Thanks

I have an Auto. Thanks for the tips.

I am thinking modify Cold Intake, Muffler, Header, Lower + Spring, Shocks, 18" Racing Harts Rims, Yokahoma Tires, Body Kits, Carbon Fiber Lancer EVO Style Hood, InterCooler, Larger Brake & Discs. That's all I can think of now.

Any Suggestions?

Really? I hope it sounds very powerful. I am hoping to modify and hear that Turbo Gear change sound. haha.. maybe I can only know how it sound when it's installed. I am ordering the Supercharger this week and have it installed next week at a Toyota TRD center.

Any suggestions? Thanks.

hooolala has a supercharger, not a turbo. and that sound you hear when they shift is the blowoff valve..you are ordering a s/c so you will not have that (blowoff valve), and wouldnt really need an intercooler. superchargers and turbos are not the same and you cannot have both.

um...

u gotta ask urself wut u want...

u want the factory warranty? and reliablity? if so go for the trd supercharger and have the dealer install it.

if u dont ur not mechanically challenaged... and u like power... then go for turbo... unless trd have a tubo setup... then go for that... but they dont...

they are both fun... but turbo have more potential...

and since u have a auto... u wont hear the bov go off untill u.... 1. build up enough pressure... 2. release your gas pedal...

on a stick... it will go off when... 1. build up enough pressure... 2. changing gear...

If u do intake,exhaust, and/or header you will have a big difference with FI.

u can do both, it's called twincharging. it's just generally pointless. I'm not at home, but i'll try to remember to post up a link to a twincharged corolla later. and also, u can have a bov with a supercharger i believe, but u'd jsut be losing pressure.

that sounds real interseting, learn something new everyday. if you can dig up that link thatd be something good to read. . was trying to clear things up a little bit cuz i think rolla-s was a little confused between turbochargers and superchargers. the impression i got was that he was lumping the two together.

A turbo is a type of supercharger. It differs primarily in how it uses your exhaust gases to create boost while a typical supercharger is belt driven and uses the engine to create boost.

Turbos are more efficient since they do not rob horse power from the engine to create boost. Thus you generate more hp per pound of boost than a typical supercharger. The down sides? They take longer to spool up (kick in), they are harder on the engine, less reliable than a typical supercharger, require a lot of engine tuning, and add more weight. Turbos are best used for high speed applications because that is where they shine, the higher rpms.

Superchargers add hp and tq right from the time you put down on the gas. They do not require an intercooler (but can have them for increased efficiency). They are easier to install, weigh less, are very durable, and are easier on the engine as boost is not just dumped on your engine at a certain rpm but added constantly. If you get the TRD you loose your manufacturer's warranty but it is replaced with the TRD warranty (same deal pretty much). You can add a pully to increase the boost but due to the efficieny of the S/C you won't see much of a gain for that.

The best route to set up your car for the TRD S/C is to get a header, catback exhaust (2.25"-2.5") mandrel bent, cooler plugs (very important), and an aftermarket ECU like the Unichip or something similar. With the right setup and tuning you can expect to get an average of about 165-170 hp to the wheels or about 200hp at the crank from what I have read on different forums.

The best reason to get a S/C vs a turbo is you will always take a turbo from a stop. No having to wait and when you put down on the engine you can rest easier knowing your car will still be running years down the road because the S/C was made for your car by Toyota. S/C is good for AutoX and drag racing, but if you want top speed then you are going to want to go turbo.

Best bet is to do a google search on S/C and turbo theory and make an informed decision on your own. It's your car after all.

no offense, but there's a lot of misconception on this page... Roller-S, i would recommend you to read howstuffworks.com on the two.

twincharging is simple... you use a supercharger for low end torque and then you use the turbo for high HP. Why is it pointless? because we now have ball-bearing turbos that spins up a lot faster.

If you have to ask, then you most likely should get the supercharger. There's no additional mods necessary and you get to keep the warranty.

You should only consider the turbo if you REALLY know what you're doing and you're prepared to fix any problems yourself... including potentially having to buy a new engine to replace a blown one.

Dude vanion, no offense, but a lot of that stuff you said isn't on the money.

They spin faster, but at the same time heat up faster too, intercooling is more necessary for bb turbos than the older ones.

http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/...incharging.html


there ya go, enjoy

I'm not offended. I did leave out a lot of details but from the extensive research I have done in the past it is mostly correct. Perhaps you could be more specific in my errors? If I am wrong then I will learn something new. If I am not then maybe you will...*shrugs* I keep an open mind about such things and posting links to research would go a long way. I will do the same when I get time but I am at work and all my good stuff is at home.

Not to mention the cost involved in twin charging... a turbo kit is expensive enough

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they are harder on the engine




Turbochargers and superchargers do basically the same thing -- I don't see how one can be harder on the engine than another..

A t/c'd car should hang with a s/c'd without any problem..at least if it was manual..you might take a few thousand miles off the clutch, though.

first of all... i want to disspell the whole "you can't intercool a supercharger" crap. YOU CAN. you use a centrifugal supercharger and it's intercoolable. now, mind you, the supercharger pureists don't like the centrifugal deals very much. a roots style blower is generally not intercooled. you can also intercool a blitz compressor.

turbos are not necessarily used for high speed applications... i'm at full boost by 3.5k rpm. that's not that high... and by full boost i mean 13psi.

Please keep in mind that I was referring to a "typical" supercharger vs turbo. Every application is as different as the car and the setup you have in mind. So yes, depending on the size of the turbo (IE a t25) you can get a faster spool time and produce boost at lower rpms, but a supercharger vs a turbo from a stop will generally get an early lead. I am not saying that it is always the case but if the cars and drivers are equal...you do the math.

Any type of FI is harder on the engine than N/A, but because boost is added constantly with a supercharger there is no surge of sudden force that is typical with a turbo. No surge means so sudden increase in pressure on internals and thus less wear and tear. Again, please remember, this is just a "typical" setup. Smaller turbos = smaller surges at lower rpms and can be run just fine.

Trust me, if TRD put out a turbo and a supercharger I would probably buy the turbo. Even with the added weight and hassle to get it tuned right the power gains over come any loss relatively quickly. They are just more efficient, but the whole point of my first post was to explain to someone who knew very little of either a very basic understanding of the differences between the two.

Heh...to be honest, we could debate the differences between types of superchargers, turbos, and setups all day until we are blue in the face because there are so many options and setups available out there. The only right way to setup your car is the way you want it done. The information is out there. And you can never be too informed.

true that... i'm not debating you... you have some good points, but i'm just trying to disspell some myths. actually, some have been getting BETTER spool up with at gt28rs out of the FS-DE 2.0... it's not just the size, it's the type of bearing and the condition of the bearing...

heh, i've been in some very heavy sc vs. turbo debates... i'm not about to start one... but i prefer turbo...