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Engine I'm spraying!

Discussion in 'Powertrain' started by CadetLee, Aug 10, 2004.

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    CadetLee Guest

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    I'm spraying!

    Finally finished the installation..

    It wasn't really as hard as I expected -- the most complicated bit was wiring.

    35 shot (wet) -- it's not a *huge* difference, but I can't spray when the road is wet..at least not in second.. :p

    My purge isn't working for some reason -- I'll probably check the wiring tomorrow..if I can't find anything wrong, I'll call NX.

    Next time I go to the track, I'm hoping for a mid-15..we'll see. =)
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    heheheh Good job, Makesure you do install 9:1 piston and rod, before you do internal damage to your engine :p
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    you don't have to install lower compression pistons for a n2o setup. turbo or s/c? sure... but not n2o - just may need to replace the piston rings after a while, and the forged rods will still be a good idea.
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    the pistons would end up costing more than the nitrous oxide AND you would lose power during daily driving because of the decreased compression.. He is running a 35shot Wet kit, it cant be more safer than that C'mon!
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    heeh ask Hoolala, he will told you ^^
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    for the safety change 9:1 running nos.
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    i'm not a nitrous nerd, but i heard somewhere that running anything under a 50-60shot should be dry, and purge kits do litterally nothing but clean out the system..which will take off like .1 off your time and waste a run of nitrous down the track
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    you're absolutely correct silver


    but purge looks cool, and like u said, can help clean out the system, along with getting air out of the system. I think a purge kit is a good idea if u don't mind spending the money, especially if u're gonna run a larger nitrous hsot later on.
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    There's no harm in running rich, you run a bigger risk of pre detonation with dry kits
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    Cadet... doesnt your car have like 150,000+ miles on it? hope it holds up while you're spraying.
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    Mike4831 C-Town Pimp

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    pics. ya his car dows have 150k plus. i have no clue how he is planning on saving his engine.
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    149,200-something, IIRC.

    NX wouldn't sell a wet kit for a 35 shot if it wasn't correct -- sure, you *can* run a dry shot, but I'd rather be too rich than lean.

    A 35 shot is about the same as what..3psi on a turbo? I'm not spraying constantly -- I think it'll be alright. I talked to a shop here (n2o installs, custom turbos, etc), and he said I should be safe up to a 50 shot, even with the mileage I have. He tells me to keep an eye on my plugs and make sure they aren't turning to the wrong colors..heh

    As far as purge goes -- a tenth of a second is a tenth of a second..isn't the objective to get down the track as fast as possible?

    If I break something, I'm screwed..but honestly -- how many people have blown engines on a 35 wet shot? I think someone here blew one, but that was a 75 shot...

    Edit: If I burn a hole in a piston, maybe I'll take out a loan for a big bore kit..that would suck, but I'd probably be safe for a 75 shot..and f/i besides. =)
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    can someobdy brush me up on this stuff..whats diff between wet/dry..cause i might run a 35 shot soon
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    wet - sprays nitrous and fuel
    dry - sprays nitrous only

    most setups just use a single fogger that gets stuck into the intake tube.

    there is also direct port setups that cost a helluva lot more, but involve changing out your injectors.

    the reason you don't wanna spray too much in a dry kit is because of a lack of fuel in the chamber and thus, detonation...very bad for the engine.

    EDIT: also...i'm not so sure that a purge kit will take time off your run, because it's only there so that you can get the air out of the lines before your run...as in if you just hooked up your bottle, or hooked up the lines to the fogger/jets. i think it's b.s. that it would take time off your run.
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    not sure that you'd put a hole in the piston. i think someone was referring to your piston rings which, being not used to the increased amount of friction and the other factors associated with using nitrous, will end up cracking or breaking prematurely, which would cause oil to leak into the chamber. not good. LOTS of labor costs involved in replacing the piston rings.
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    Is it 'possible' to do that yourself, or is it pretty much a shop-only job?

    I also contacted a local machine shop a while back, and they can bore/sleeve my engine for $60/cylinder, I think (if I provide sleeves)..but that's not including labor for taking the engine apart. :p
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    you guys who think purge systems make you slower when you race or whatever are missing the point.

    you purge to get air out of the system and it just sprays nitrous outside of the car somewhere, so no nitrous is going into your engine. you dont do this when you're racing, you do it when you prep to spray.
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    I run a dry system, I don't where you guys get your info on NOS. My speed shop Morgans in W.C. rec to run a dry system. When you hit the button it sprays the NOS, then the stock injectors spray the the gas accordingly. I run a 75 shot dry NOS system with 2 5 pound polished bottles. Installed by me. And if you read the instructions on the NOS directions it states that running a dry system is safer thans a wet system. Cuz the wet system puddles in the intake then BOOM...... :D
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    CadetLee car has olny 150k on it....Man that is still good it can headle 35 shots of it....but if he keeps using is nos thats a different story.....I have 181k n my car is turbo there is nothing wrong with it so far....i'm boosting only 5lbs and its fast already....

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