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Discussion in 'Powertrain' started by RohllaNewbie, Jul 22, 2003.

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    RohllaNewbie Guest

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    How to install TRD sport muffler?

    Just recieved my trd muffler today, but no instructions came with it (I guess I should'nt expect any since I got it off ebay) :? Anyhow, for the people who have installed the trd sport muffler on their rollas care to share a short diy on it? I looked under the car and saw these two black pieces holding the stock muffler but don't have a clue on how to remove them. Any help is much appreciated.
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    Tro1086 Guest

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    Yes, is there any easy way to remove the rubber hangers. I tried pulling them off with brute force but they wouldnt come off.

    Thanks
    Trevor
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    R-ed Guest

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    My advice to you is bring it to a muffler shop to get it installed for you. They have all the necessary tools to get it loose.
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    Tro1086 Guest

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    The muffler is so easy to change, i dont see any point in taking it to a muffler shop and spending money when i can do it in half an hour. The ONLY hard part is getting those rubber hangers off. I dont have any new muffler to put on but I tried getting mine off one day and i couldne get those rubber hangers off, but thats the only hard part.

    Trevor
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    statik New Member

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    Did you try some dish soap to lube up the hangers. This used to be the way people would deal with this type of situation. I havn't done it on a rolla though.

    Scott
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    AESC Guest

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    i used some wood i had left over and stacked them up about 8 inchs hight and drove the the car up and cut off the end nipples that hold the hanger to the rubber piece using a hacksaw blade. took about 5 minutes to cut both pieces off. then unbolt the two bolts from the pipe remove the muffler and put the new one in its place just put the hangers though the rubber boots and then tighten up the 2 bolts as tight as they go. you are all done. took me 30 minutes from start to finish.
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    Tro1086 Guest

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    but do the rubber hangars stay on very good without the nipples?

    I imagine a better solution might be to just cut the rubber peice off rather then cutting a peice off the car. I dont know but it dosnt seem like it would cost that much to get 2 new rubber hanger things.

    Trevor
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    RohllaNewbie Guest

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    I read that spraying some lubricant on the hangers and letting it sit for a few hours will help the removal of the rubber hangers. Then, just use a flathead screwdriver to pry them out.
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    AESC Guest

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    here ya go cut this off
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    and this is what it will look like on your old muffler once it is removed and will slide out easy.
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    i used a hacksaw blade took 5 minutes. very easy
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    R-ed Guest

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    whoa. that sounds pretty easy :D i guess it's because we dont have to deal with the cat like hondas, since it's near the header. I was also wondering about the bolts that connect to the header. Were they hard to get off? I heard that the bolts begin to rust because it's near the ground. Im just wondering.
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    AESC Guest

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    no problem for me came off easy maybe cause my car was only 2 months old when i installed mine. but very easy to do. hope the pics help the first pic is the hanger from my trd muffler the nipple on the factory one will be on the other side but still the same process. if you lived in ohio i could have done it for you in 30 minutes. good luck and just tighten the bolts as tight as you can they have springs in them and have a set depth they can go
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    RollaS New Member

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    haha awesome idea, i wrestled with that thing for like a half hour to get it off.
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    Thanks for the help AESC, the pics help alot. Only thing I'm worried about is if it was hard to stick in the new nipples into the hangar, or does it just pop rite in?
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    AESC Guest

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    i used some oil in the rubber fittings and it slid right in. no problems at all.
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    I used this stuff:

    PB Blaster

    All you would have to do is lube up the rubber hangers a bit. Move the hangers around to distribute the PB Blaster around. Let it sit there for a few minutes and then take it off. I've never had a problem with rubber hangers using this stuff. ;)
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    I wonder if some WD-40 would work then. Only bad thing about using an oil based lube like WD and may PB is that it would collect dust and dirt wherever you sprayed it.

    Trevor
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    Well, I'm not a big fan of WD, but I would use them to clean off my threads on my coilovers before adjusting them. I'm in the middle of doing the TRD Sport Muffler install and I didn't have that hard of a time with the bolts or the rubber hangers. PB, and a screwdriver helped out quite a bit. Of course there was brute force. ;)

    I would NOT take your car to a muffler shop for such a easy install. It's definitely not worth it unless they charge like $20 or less to do it for you. I just like to do it myself for piece of mind if I mess it up, I know what I did wrong. I'm sure you guys know what's up. :D

    Oh, BTW, the reason I'm here and not installing the muffler is because UPS dropped it off at my neighbors earlier today and they aren't home for me to get it from them. :? I'll wait and see if I can do it later on tonight with some aid of flashlights or do it first thing in the morning. ;)
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    Mr SEntra Guest

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    Alright, I'm DONE with the install. Wow, it was easy to install the muffler. Even if it was done outside my apartment complex with a jack and jackstand with oil and dirt on the parking spot I was at. ;) The exhaust note is a lot nicer than I thought. Very mellow, but it's there. There was absolutely no grumble at idle with stock, now there's a noticable tone. It doesn't sound "rice". :D
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    Very nIce 8) can't wait to install mine. BTW, when u installed the exhuast did u take out the whole exhaust wit the heat shield and hangers still attached or did u just remove the nipples from the hangers while the exhaust was still on the car?
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    Mr SEntra Guest

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    Nope! To remove the muffler, I undid the two bolts that connected the muffler to the midpipe, then I unfastened the two rubber hangers. When I put the TRD can on, I fastened the two rubber hangers first, then put the two bolts back on. :) I didn't mess with anything else. ;)
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    Just finished installing my exhaust. It was soooooo much easier than I thought it would be. The hardest part was unscrewing the two bolts cuz they were screwed on so friggen tight. Other than that, removing the tips from the rubber hangers were a cinch with the help of some lubricant, flathead screwdriver, and some brute force. I used some WD-40 as the lubricant and it worked great. Took me max 2 hours including the time to clean up everything. Now that I have my trd intake and exhaust combo installed, I think I'm ready to bone out on some civics :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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    so the exhaust is almost a simple DIY except for the bolts right? cause i was thinkin of buying the TRD CAI, Springs, and exhaust. gonna see if i can get a decent deal, but if the exhaust is simple to install, i can save some money on installation.
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    Yea, if you have all the tools necessary, the exhaust is a real simple DIY...easier than installing an intake. Like Mr Sentra said, I wouldn't suggest going to a shop to install the exhaust unless it was less than 20 bucks and I really didn't have time to install it.
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    yea, i'm gonna see if i can do it myself, i have the tools. i'll read the posts carefully when i do get it to make sure i have everything right.
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    As long as you have some good lubricant, such as PB Blaster or even WD, you'll be fine. Just be patient. I guess that's the key for every install. ;)
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    TRD Sport Muffler INSTALLED

    I'll probably make a DIY out of this once I get some pictures. For anyone who might have been wondering, the stock exhaust piping I measured to about 1.78". The new muffler tip measures out to be about 3-3/8".

    INSTALLATION EXPERIENCE:

    My car and exhaust pipe were a little warm because I had driven it around before I was getting ready to start. So...

    1) You MUST be on a flat surface. DO NOT attempt this is on an uneven pavement. It will cause profuse bleeding and possible dismemberment. Common place to do it is in your garage.

    2) Wait for the vehicle to cool down. This is extremely important not only because the pipes are hot, but because the nuts will contract and expand with heat and cold, and may twist or warp if they are still hot.

    3) Jack up the car from the rear and support with jackstands. You will mostly likely have to jack up the car VERY high because there is only one place where regular sized jackstands will fit, and that is the bar that runs from wheel-to-wheel. If you don't have a jack with jackstands, go buy some. A complete set will run you $30-$45, and you can reuse it when it comes time to do oil changes and stuff. (I will post pictures of the jacking point and jackstands point as well, since some people confuse the spare tire area as the jacking point.)

    4) Get some WD-40 or other greasing agent and spray it over the nuts and coil that attach the stock muffler to exhaust piping. Wait for the grease to work for about 5 minutes.

    5) The nuts are 14mm Hex if I remember correctly. Get yourself a socket wrench, attach the head, and get those nuts off. If you are standing in back of the car, facing the rear end, then the direction to loosen the nut would be counter-clockwise.

    6) Once the two nuts are released, the "coil" thingie (don't know what the actual name of this piece is) will slip off and the exhaust and muffler will be separated. There is a gasket between these two pieces. Leave the gasket as you will need to reuse it.

    7) Now for the fun part. The stock muffler is hanging at two points on rubber hangers. If you are absolutely sure that you will never need your stock muffler again, then cut the metal flangs that are attached to the metal hanger. Then pull the two pieces apart (once again, I will post pictures when I can). If for any reason, you have problems with Smog Checks, you may want to put the stock muffler back on. So, make a decision.

    8) If you have chosen to keep your stock muffler intact, then what you need to do is get a flathead screwdriver (preferrably a long, thick head as it will be easier), and use it to pry the fetal flangs out of the hole on the rubber hanger. This will require significant force. (I will post pictures of the best place to stick the screwdriver when you do this) Try not to damage/cut the rubber because over time, the cut will slowly become larger. This step is also best done with someone to help you hold the stock muffler.

    9) When the muffler has been released from both rubber hangers, you are free to take it out from your car completely. Set it aside and prepare to mount the new one. Once again, it is easier if someone can help you hold the muffler.

    10) Reverse the steps this time. Get the new muffler onto the rubber hangers first. This requires nothing more than stock the nipple on the flang, into the hole on the rubber hanger, and pushing it with force until it slides on through. It's like being in a tight pus... well... ya know. You eventually make it...

    11) Once the muffler is secured on the hangers, realign it with the exhaust pipe. Slide the coil back through and hand tighten the nuts. Then get a torque wrench and set it for 30 ft-lbs and tighten. Actually, since there's no manual, and I don't have the service manual either, I had to guess on the torque. Since my strut bar had 12mm nuts and required only 29 ft-lbs torque, I figured that the ones here on the exhaust probably wouldn't be much different. If you don't have access to a torque wrench, you can do it by hand, although you will probably overtorque slightly (it's okay to overtorque a little). If you are going by hand with a regular socket wrench, then tighten until it's stiff. Then give the handle of your socket wrench a hard bump with your fist. This should get roughly the amount of torque you need.

    12) Remove the jackstands and lower your vehicle back down. Fire up the engine.

    13) Check for leakage at the connecting point b/t the new muffler and exhaust piping. Get your helper friend to rev the engine to around 5000rpm for you. Put your hand near the connecting point (but don't touch the pipe!) and feel for any hot gas release. Do this a few times around that point to ensure that there is nothing extra escaping out of that point. (On my installation, the 30 ft-lbs torque was enough to keep the two pipes securely joined together, with no leakage.)

    14) If everything checks out, then you're good to go. Enjoy your extra 3 peak hp!!!
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    tom Guest

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    Excellent DIY, KingKuei for the TRD Muffler install.....

    Sounds like the rubber hangers is a pain in the ass, but other than that, its just a simple turn of the ratchet. I will definitely follow your steps.
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    Whoa, dead thread alert! :) The install is a piece of cake and a really easy mod to get done. I'm a fan. :)
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    I still say those rubber hangars are *&@#)$(*^@#)(*%^)(*^)!!! But brute force conquers all. hey ken. if you get the trd muffler, you can bring it to my house. me and ron installed his muffler after he bought it from me. didn't take long.
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    lol definitely....brute force does the job...god damn hangars

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