Hold on to your horses!

Toyota needs its coupes. They need to attract younger buyers. If they can get that hook in them, they will likely have loyal customers for years. my parents have owned i think 6 toyotas. droping they sportier coupes is a big mistake . they need to make them more cost effient. drop some things hear and there. price wise they were literally insane. a sports coupe with the insurance of a covette and the price tag of a z. what the hell is that all about. they need to rethink their cars. imo

Speaking of Supra, did you know Toyota stood by Supra since the late 80s when it became a loss generating venture for them??? They still had the motivation to put years of research on developing special equipment and special technology for the Supra MK4 and launched it in 1993. It still did not become a profitable venture for them even after 8 years. Was Supra overpriced?? Hell NO!!!!! It was priced much lower than most of it''s competitors even by today's standards, it was priced lower than other cars. It was stereotype and ignorance that killed Supra. I have a pet peeve about people who imply just because it is a Toyota necessarily implies it is crap. I own a 04 Corolla S and it makes me sick to the stomach when I hear that if it is a Corolla, it is built for old people. Supra did not have the strong market to compete against American built muscle cars. Nissan discontinued the 300ZX in the 90s as well, but it was built like crap in it's final years whereas, Supra was at it's prime when it was finished. Very small number of people wanted to touch a Supra because of stereotypes. When a company loses money on a product for more than 10 years, there is no way on earth you can continue to sell the product. I have seen tons of Supra owners today with tons of modifications and their Supras TT have taken tons of abuse and high mileage where other so called muscle cars fall apart, Supra still shines on every race track. Even after 140K, they still can smoke anything that moves out there. That is why you pay a higher price for a Toyota. No one can put together a car like Toyota does. They have every reason to charge the customers as much as they do.

Hold on to your horses!

Eversince it became official that Celica and MR-S are being discontinued, I have seen lots of disappointed people on vvti.net and toyotanation.com. Let''s not draw conclusions just yet. Toyota is very smart and they definitely will not move away from real sports cars. They are just keeping it secret on what they are working on right now. They gave a glimpse of the LF-C concept car, which is going to be the next Lexus IS300 and one of the coolest cars ever. Lexus/Toyota have openly said in their press release that they will be incorporating high performance with hybrid technology. What does that mean to you??? Definitely that, Toyota is working on some new cool cutting edge super cars. Give it a year or two and you will see Toyota will take the sports/super car market by storm again

One can only hope!

Since toyota is dropping the only cars it has geared to younger people...this is only going to raise the avg age of the people buying toyotas. am i correct? i think the avg age is already 45 so it might just hit 50.

Yeah, Mike exactly. But, Toyota cannot let that happen. They need cars for the younger generation to appeal to a broad customer base. People keep talking about Scion for younger blah blah. Get this straight, Scion has officially nothing to do with Toyota. They both are independent car companies. Toyota will never pass the torch on to Scion for younger people and let the average age drift up for Toyotas. If Toyota is to remain at the top of the game, they MUSTTTT build sporty cars for younger generation.

scion is a part of toyota my tc is finaced through toyota so how can they not be related

Try to understand what I am saying. From a business stand point, they both are competing against each other. Just like Lexus and Toyota. Lexus came into being essentially because Toyota wanted to make luxury and more expensive cars without raising the price of Toyotas. Toyota will do everything in it's capacity to attract younger people since that is marketing a brand for you. You go to a Toyota dealership and try to argue with them about a Corolla XRS vs. Scion TC, they would give you tons of reasons to stay away from the TC and vice versa. They both have individual business goals. If Toyota rests on it''s laurels because old people are buying the Toyotas, they will have no market for new potential buyers tommorow when all the older people are not there to buy the cars anymore. They both would try to grab as many customers as they can from any age group. It simply does not work like that where Toyota would go "OK, we do not want any young drivers buying our car so let's make another company that handles that while we will make cars for old age people". They just wanted to make cars that were much cheaper in cost without lowering the price of Toyotas.

I read in a mag that toyota believes that scion buyers will totally skip toyota and jump into lexus dealerships when they are ready to move up. Their theory is that scions aims at the premium small car market like the mini.

So all i'm hearing is toyota cares more about making money than making cars fast fun and affordable.. There is only a certain amount of respect i can give to a car manufacturer and Toyota is losing mines.. Look at honda for example they obviously care enough to make their cars tuner friendly, and been showing it even in their ad campaigns.. while toyota keep putting out sad asss "just wanna have fun commercials" which seem to be targeted towards surfer kids or some shit. And Just recently FINALLY jumped on the bandwagon with their 3rd brand.. And for some fuckin reason performance parts made for scion still sports the TRD badge.

Now I have not became disappointed.. I've been disappointed since 1998 when production of the Supra stopped.. and dont give me that affordability crap because even Honda cared enuff to keep the NSX to showcase their car knowledge. And I rather look forward to moving on to a different car manufacturer than stay disappointed.

Lastily I would like to add, the acronym TRD is becoming nothing more than a sad sad joke

how is scion competing with toyota if they decided the scion line would appeal for the 'younger generation'. how about in order to maximize scion's profits, they drop the 'younger generation' toyota line in order to popularize scion.

toyota is really crappin in hte crapper. argue all you want, until something sweetly sporty yet uniquely appealing that takes the market like none other, toyota is leaving the 'younger generation' scene behind. and that doesn't mean its bad. other car companies will pick up their slack.

You are nutty

Well, now that Toyota is pulling out the Celica and MR2, that's means more sales for the RSX and the Miata. Would be nice if Toyota brings over the Caldina in light of all of this. Although it's a wagon, i'd still hit it.

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