Going to test drive the new Jetta 2.0T tomorrow

Going to test drive the new Jetta 2.0T tomorrow

Well I went home and drove my friend's 03 1.8T Jetta and I have to say, wow. What a solid car. No shaking, no vibrating; just a nice smooth ride.

Well there is a black 07 Jetta on the lot here with a 6-speed manual tranny. Their new 2.0T engine pushes 200hp and 207lb-ft of torque.

They want 22k for it. I might become a traitor if we can swing a no-money-down deal.


Probably I'll drive it, like it, and not be able to trade for it. LOL

Oh well. Such is life...

Well I mean I should be able to trade its just I'll be upside down more than likely.

I'm excited. Yeah I was on the vw website yesterday and I saw the eos there. It looks really cool actually. I talked with a Jetta service technician and he told me that you can chip the new 2.0t's and get a 70hp increase. Is that right? If so, that would be the first thing I would do. Holy cow.

Eric, You own a passat right? Do you know of any vw jetta owners forums? Nothing really came up when I google searched.

Just random here:
I pulled up to the dealership Jack Ingram VW, and they have a Jack Ingram Porsche right next to it. Well there was a Ferrari sitting outside, so I had to take a closeup look. I'm guessing it was a 360 Modena maybe. (no badge) It looked hot. Well a lady came outside from the service part and I told her I wsa just looking and that I didn't touch it. lol She said if you like that, the owner is out back washing his Porche 911 GT3... :O I didn't get to see it though.

Oh yeah I saw that commercial today actually. lol

I was poking around there earlier. They need better forum software I think. Heh. Oh well...

I went to look at both the jetta and the passat.

The new jetta to me seems too much like a girl's car, just like the Scion TC is one.

The Passat was much nicer, but the front end of both cars is what makes them look like they are floating.

I liked the older generation's look better.

GL

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Still, why go from one boat to another!

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i own a 1.8t. and so does one of my bosses at work. he said he test drove the new 2.0t and it wasnt as "fun" and wasnt like the 1.8t. said he liked the 1.8t way better and it was quiker. idno tho because i didnt drive it...

yah... i guess VW's are good at that... mod friendly is it???

my neighbor right across the street has a 2004 GLI 1.8T and she has it chipped, and i told her lets race, and i didn't think she wanted to do it but she said lets go.

(keep in mind this is my girlfriends mom and she is about 40 and MILF!!!)

well needless to say, she raped the living shit out of me, i took her right off the line because i did a fat roasting but she caught right up and just started taking off badly

when we get back to my neighborhood, she yells out "Like walking the dog!"

Yeah, I guess I just do not like the front end, even on the GTI.

Look at this pic and the holes of rocks hiting it. Them holes are not pretty:



And then teh regular it gets narrower as it gets further forward, it is really a look that you have to get used to:



Like I said I saw them both, and it was not love at first sight.

Only one I would even consider would be the Passat AWD, but 35K for that, no thanks!

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I have a few friends that drive AUDI's and VW's and they have nothing but problems with them, especially with the electronic components and sensors. I guess the germans don't like sourcing there components from Japan so they use there own inhouse stuff that is way behind the times in quality. But hey, thats just one mans opinion

you terrible man. but the truth is the truth.

whats your name on vortex? this is me and my crappy photography skills.... http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2864531

man... awsome.... i wish my rolla has a chip in it =_____=

Well I may do something really stupid here...

I drove the 2.0T but they also have a black GLI on the lot too. MUCH more fun to drive. Also 5,000 more with the damn package 1. I love the seats though, the handling is better, and more fun features... Will be friggin $510 a month though...

OUCH!

I'm back at the house mulling it over right now. I should probably sleep on it and decide against it.

But DAMN its a nice car!

Don't buy it, just lease it. I can guarantee you will be done with it after the lease (be it 24 or 36 months)

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yeah besides if I remember correctly, the lease is only 8 less per month.

Trading in with no money down. That's my problem. (and a dumb decision at that)

I owe 9400 on the rolla. They gave me 9000. Not good, but better than most would.

This is really more of an emotional decision than anything. I need to think about this. The 510 is looking worse and worse. It frickin hurts though because that gli is badass..

We did a brake test and stomped the brakes at 50mph. NO TIRE SQUEAL AT ALL. wow

no lease, big waste of money, in the end of buying you at least have a car you can sell!!!

It depends on what type of deal you get. I am sorry but a car is never an investment. What real investment depreciates the way a car does?

We have Paolino here as a perfect example, he is tired of his car, he wants to trade it in, and he is still upside down on a loan? If it really was an investment they would be paying him more for it than what he owes.

Plus after a few years you are itching for a new car.

Also you only pay tax on the amount of the lease, and a lot of times the iterest rate is lower on a lease.

A lot of other things come into play as well, as how far into the model year the car is in. The residual goes lower as the car gets older.

And if they are telling you that it is only $8 less for a lease a month they are taking you for a ride.

Big things on a lease are residual value, interest rate of the loan, any rebates or special lease offer, and terms of the lease.

I got quoted $365 a month on a Passat with the premium and convenience package which included the leather, sunroof and all the other little things.

This with only paying taxes, security and first month which was like close to $2000 out of pocket.

Other thing that you have to remember sadly VW is not like Honda's or Toyotas that hold their value very well, so once you start looking at all the little things your investment just gets worse and worse.

One other thing, the worst that you can do is buy a car on sentiment alone, car salespeople can smell that a mile away.

GL

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Now real state is an investment (most of the time) but really comparing a car lease to real state lease is apple to oranges.

For starters one is a necessity, the other most of the time you can do without.

Car in this day and age are looke upon as disposable.

Go speak to the owners of the first few BMW M5's when they first came out ans who were paying close to 100K for them. Right now they are worth maybe a little buit more than half, and for what? Just for the luxury of saying that they were the first to own one?

Now, with that said if you are the type of person that will keep a car till the tires will fall off, then you may be a good candidate to purchase a car, the same with modifications.

But if you like the brand new smell every few years, then a lease may be the way to go.

And the higher up you go in the class of cars, the harder it is to go lower the next time around.

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I won't cut and paste, but this I agree with you eric, you should not trade in your car for either a lease or purchase. You will never get what your car is worth.

Now let's take and example, mine.

I had a 98 Corolla LE that I purchased for $17.5K new out the door with finance charges and everything.

I owned it for 6 years, I had a 5 year loan.

At the end I could only sell it for $5,200

So let see, in the course of six years I spent $12,500 or pretty much threw away, the difference between what I paid, and what I got in the end. And that is not counting maintenance, upgrades, gas and other things. My cars had ~78K miles when I sold it.

So I spent roughly $2000 a year for it not counting other expenses, and used it for 78K miles. If I divide the 12,500 per the 78K miles that I used it, it roughly comes out to .16 cents per mile excluding other expenses.

Now, I had a 2003 Nissan Altima in 2002 leased for 36 months at $262 per month. Over 36 months it was $9,432. Then if i divide that amoutn by 36K miles it comes out to roughly .26 cents per mile. a difference of 10 cents per mile without any other expense included.

Of course, you have to look at what you are getting. the Altima had many more ammenities than the Corolla, and it was a bigger more useful car overall than the corolla. Pretty much different class of car. If i do not take into account the maintenance, and of course the expense of modding, which I believe it applies to you as well Paolino, the altima was a beter value since it was bigger, higher luxury than a 98 corolla, and never was urged to mod it since it was a lease, plus it was more refined and faster overall.

End of lease just returned it, and I had no headache in selling it.

I had a huge headache in selling the Corolla since I had to take off the mods, and find a seller.

Now, real state.

Bought an aparment in 2002 for 84K. Invested roughly 15K in renovations, make it 100K total.

Spend yearly close to 12K in between maintenance, and mortgage.

Had it for 4 years. Roughly wash away half of the yearly expense in fees, but today it has increased in value more than double. recently another apartment just like mine sold for 285K, and it was probably in worse shape than mine.

Show me a car that is not extremely expensive, and only 4 years old that you can sell for more than double in 4 years, and you will heard the words "buying a car is an investment" coming out of my mouth.

My only regret right now is to have purchased my last car since now that I am selling it it has depreciated almost 7K in one year.

Why do I need to change? My lifestyle has changed, and I need something else right now. I should have leased it, since for the amount I pay monthly I could have two leases, and be able to keep two cars.


Forgot to add, an old school car salesman recently told me, do not buy a car payment, buy a car. Always buy what fits you best, and what will fit you for the life of the car, be it a year or 10 years.

I think those are words to live by.


GL

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ya, but on a lease, you can't go over a certain amount of mileage????

thats crazy, i tend to drive over 100 miles per day

Then yes you are not the right person for a lease.

But a car is not an investment!

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