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DIY Gen 7th and 8th Rolla front caliper upgraded with 93-97 2.2L Camry front caliper

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    rainbow_star New Member

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    Gen 7th and 8th Rolla front caliper upgraded with 93-97 2.2L Camry front caliper

    Once again, I got this information from a Taiwanese Corolla site (http://www.llaclub.info), I'll try my best to translate it.


    The story is about a guy called "hothbl" (he's just like Vamp in Taiwan), he wanted to upgrade his corolla front caliper but couldn't find any. He kept thinking and thinking then he came across with Camry's.

    Translation started :)
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    The oem corolla caliper piston is around 54-55mm, and Camry is around 57-58mm. It's just a little bit bigger, but the effect is lots lots bigger. You can use Camry's caliper directly bolt on to the Gen 7th rolla, it's 100% fit. But Camry's brake disc is 6mm thicker than the rolla, so you have to replace your brake pads when they have only 3mm left. Make sure you got 93-97 2.2L Camry's caliper, coz no one never tried the 3.0L yet, not sure if it will work or not.

    Above it for Gen 7th rolla only, for Gen 8th, you have to buy the front caplier from Gen 7th! Because Camry's caplier can only directly bolt on to Gen 7th's "座" (can someone help me translate this?), and Gen 7th's and Gen 8th's "羊腳固定孔" (anyone help?) are the same. So Gen 8th need to buy a set of Gen 7th's caplier in order to upgrade to camry's.

    If you didn't change anything at all but the caplier only, you will get at least 15% more braking power (dunno how they measure it).

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    org post from that thread: http://www.llaclub.info/viewtopic.php?t=88

    很高興HBL 教室又跟大家見面了
    今天介紹的是....煞車卡鉗流用昇級法
    是不是很羡慕其它人可以流用較大的卡鉗來昇級煞車呢??
    Corolla 原廠卡鉗活塞大小只有54-55mm左右,所以我就動腦動到
    CAMRY 去了! 它的活塞是57-58mm,所以比COROLLA 大了些,不要
    小看這一點點! 效果可是大很多呢!!! 所以可以直接拿CAMRY 的卡鉗
    裝到COROLLA的座上面,完全都合! 只是CAMRY 的碟盤比我們厚6mm
    所以來令磨到剩下3mm 的時候就一定要換啦! 有興趣的人去找找CAMRY
    的卡鉗吧! 二邊買起來應該在三千元以內啦! 記得要買2.2 的NEW CAMRY
    喔! 3.0 的沒有合過! 不確定可以用.........
    以上方法適用於New Corolla, GOA 要用比較麻煩! 因為要再買二個
    NEW COROLLA 的卡鉗! 因為CAMRY 的卡鉗只能合的上NEW COROLLA 的座
    而NEW COROLLA 跟GOA 的羊腳固定孔是一樣的! 所以GOA 要比NEW多買
    一組卡鉗.............

    以上流用方法已有實車上路驗證! 不用擔心有問題的啦! ^_^
    在什麼都不改就單換卡鉗的情況下! 煞車力道最少提昇15%以上
    而且踏感變的更好喔! 開車有點快但是又沒有錢改高檔四活塞的
    人試看看吧!! 很高興

    FAQ:
    NEW CAMRY是幾年份的CANRYㄚ ??只要不是GOA CAMRY 就可以! 年份93-97年! 當然愈新愈好 NEW COROLLA 這樣昇級最省錢了!

    GOA 如何改:
    流用卡鉗還要先改成NEW COROLLA才行....

    磨到卡鉗怎麼辦:
    有改加大碟的人要注意是否輪框平衡塊會磨到卡鉗!如果只有磨到一點點可以用"自然消除法"開個幾圈就會平了,如果卡的多到導致無法用手轉動輪框就需要用"浮濫打"磨平卡鉗


    如果說我在卡鉗以及來令片之間,兩邊各殿入3mm 殿材這樣是不是就可以恢復到來令片的正常使用狀況,而不用考慮那3mm 會影響後期的煞車效能?
    不太建議這樣用啦! 你去看看3mm 有多厚吧! 我相信剩3mm前你大概就去換來令了,如果你真的要墊,會有固定的問題及安裝的問題,而且可能會讓來令的施力不平均或是卡鉗在夾來令時造成不小心卡住的問題。在這個流用方法出現前我就想過很多了.......... 目前已知就有三台實裝車在路上跑了,不會有問題的,而且我 目前在測試車上的來令片是否真的不能磨到超過3mm......
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    1337Rolla oh my

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    interesting, thx for translating.
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    very interesting, but something seems wierd about it
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    teevee247 Well-Known Member

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    I HIGHLY doubt you get 15% more stopping power... because the car's ultimate braking is limited by the tires, not the brakes, but you might get better pedal feels and possible better fade resistance because of the thicker calipers and slightly more surface area for the pads...
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    Bulletproofswordsman JDM Oroku-Saki

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    i always thought about this
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    Ninety Four New Member

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    Well better fade resistance would be good, because I can brake hard 3 or 4 times before I can feel them fading and stopping distances increase.
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    JspeXAE102 Active Member

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    say huh?

    I'd rather go for dual piston GT-Apex brakes.. calipers are same for MR2's, but discs needs to be imported.

    ..piston size dont help brake fade, brake fade is prevented by using components that help the brake cool down quicker and/or handle higher braking temperature. It does help braking torque tho.. might bring down the distance a lil.
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    teevee247 Well-Known Member

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    But one of the changes in components is a thicker disc, like it says up top, the thicker disc will help dissipate heat better than the regular disc, which should help brake fade, and, unless I understood it wrong because its a little hard to read, doesn't the new caliper accept a larger brake pad, which would also allow the pad to dissipate heat better also... unless I read that wrong (which is very possible), heh...
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    JspeXAE102 Active Member

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    no you use OEM corolla discs, since the corolla discs are smaller you need to change the pads when there is still 3mm of braking material left on the pads. Camry are 5lugs, cant use camry discs unless you have them made in four or have them redrilled.
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    teevee247 Well-Known Member

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    Ok, now the article makes slightly more sense, heh... hard to read :|
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    rainbow_star New Member

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    I know it's hard to read, sorry guys, I tried my best to translate it but still some words I don't know how to translate.
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    Ninety Four New Member

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    I was referring to the fact that the camry discs are thicker apparently, which would help (if only slightly) prevent fade.

    If the calipers are the same for the GT-Apex brakes, does that mean the pads are the same too? Cause if so, you could just buy two extra sets of discs and just throw them in the garage until you need them. Pads are what you need to worry about more.
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    i did it and it works very very well.
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    teevee247 Well-Known Member

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    I quite like the look of your Corolla in your sig!
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    Looks way different now.
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    Yeah, didn't he do the 8.5 front conversion?
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    do it!
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    lemme take some.lol and get the car cut and buffed again.
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    lol Im trying to get it done. I've been working 50+ hours a week. Its hard to find a day.
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    any pics of the calipers?
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    Back from the dead..

    I'm having a tuff time understanding this conversion...
    So if you have an 8th gen corolla... You have to buy 7th gen Corolla calipers
    so that you can put Camry calipers on?
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    Id run the brembo big brake kit. That is what i am thinking for the front next
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    I want to spend $200 not $2000 lol
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    1nicetrd Well-Known Member

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    No way you can get some for like 800 bucks still a lot but way less than 2k
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    Dang. I didn't know. From what I've seen, anything with "Brembo" is 2000
    Added: Jul 18, 2012 7:27 PM
    But I'd still like some clarification on this upgrade.
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    But why would you need to buy the 7th gen corolla calipers? I thought both 7th and 8th gen corolla have the same suspension and brakes? whats the point?

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