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Engine engine swapping

Discussion in 'Powertrain' started by noxious_midget, Aug 26, 2004.

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    wats the displacement of the 4A-GE motor? i want the biggets motor possible

    edit: how do u get a 20valve?? :eek: its definitely not 10 cylinders so am i right in thinking it has 5 cylinders???
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    also no u know of any sites that make turbos for rollas? i know trd do some super chargers but i was set on a turbo
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    5 valve per cylinder..... blacktop 4age is a 1.6L
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    lol the idea of 5 per cylinder occured to me 5 mins ago, when i saw a pic of the engine.
    i was looking on fensport.com they have a ae111 corrola but im not sure but i think it has a celica engine in it, coz its a 2.0L turbo. wat they dont say is how they did this. would this fit in easily or would this take alot of work? i want the biggest engine poible because i want to get the biggest #'s possible

    does 1 extra valve per cylinder make much difference any way??

    another thing. if the 4A-GE is a 1.6 (1592cc) if the block was bored wat kind of displacement would i get from that? i heard that if u have the block bored the walls of the block will warp over time. (is this correct?) also having the block sleeved means boring the block then putting in metal sleeves to bring to diameter back to wat it was originally but so that it is stronger. would it be possible to bore the block and use bigger pistons for the cylinders and then at a later date put sleeves in the block? if i have misunderstood anything about this please tell me. also wat kind of price is it to have the block bored? (in uk £'s)
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    engine swapping

    would the 1zz-fe motor fit as a straight exchange into my corrola '00 (uk model ae111 chassis) also is the 1zz-fe a 2.0 or 1.8? i would be grateful for any help.
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    The 1ZZ-FE is a 1.8L and I don't think the 1ZZ-FE would be a straight exchange. Based on your chassis code, I think a 20V 4A-GE could drop in easier than the 1ZZ-FE.
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    Well if you want to get the biggest numbers possible, then I suggest you forget about the 4A-GE and save for a 3S-GTE swap instead. It can be done but it involves a bunch of money and time.
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    3s-gte? that the 2.0L turbo celica motor?

    the problem there is cash. i would have to save too long. i think i will have to go with the 4A-GE
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    Yah. 3S-GTE's came in both the Celica All-Trac/GT-4 and MR2 Turbo's. If you want power, may I suggest a 4A-GZE engine and turbocharge that.
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    4A-GZE???? wat is this majestical engine you speak of?!?
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    is twin turbo an option?

    actually h=just had a though. if you got 3 turbos a tiny 1 an average 1 and 1 the size of a big momma fucking house would that be cool or wat. (part from the vacuum that would be my wallet)
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    lol, it's basically a 4A-GE engine but with stronger internals and supercharged.
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    hehe, i'd use the 4A-GZE ... don't get me wrong, I *LOVE* the 1ZZ-FE but lets not forget its roots. The older series motors remnents are seen all over the 1ZZ in the simple fact that it exists in its present state. I personally believe you could do a lot more to an older series motor than the 1ZZ quite simply because of one of the primary reasons the 1ZZ was created... it's lighter weight with lighter weight materials. It was made to be lightweight and cost effective. The older models were motors, plain and simple - they were heavier and sturdier and were made to have the living shit beat out of them. If done right, you can build out an older series motor that would run circles around the possibilities in a 1ZZ. Mainly due to the wider variety of products available, but - remember a sturdier motor can handle more external modification abuse. Both older and newer generation models have their pro's and con's - however in your case, I follow suit with the recommendation that you install a 4A-GZE motor. You'll have less problems swapping that in then trying to get all you need to make a 1ZZ work and for what you're doing - you can save the few grand use up swapping in a 1ZZ and put that towards doing some crazy stuff with the 4A :)

    *shrug* just my thoughts on it...
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    why remove the supercharger and put on a turbo when i could just leave the turbo? twincharged. Kickarse why do you want to know how old i am??
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    cool.... thanks guys. so thats settled the 4A-GZE it is. now the hard part. manual labour. ugh...
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    if the 4A-GZE is super charged is it possible to remove it and put on a turbo? coz i would prefer a turbo, although to keep the super charger would be easier and cheaper in the long run (more reliable)

    another though if the 4A-GZE has stronger internals etc would it just be the same as buying a 4A-GE then replacing the internals? in which case i would be able to find a turbo and use that rather than messing about with the super chrger on the 4A-GZE
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    BLADDER_MASTER Active Member

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    That's what I told you earlier to do. To turbocharge the 4A-GZE. Either way, it is possible to remove the supercharger and put a turbo instead. And why are you going to buy a 4A-GE and spend more money replacing the internals? Just get a 4A-GZE, slap a turbo on there, and turn up the boost. :D
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    ok i happy now
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    Noxious how old are you?

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