corolla... a family sedan?

corolla... a family sedan?

i don't think so...

if you guys read the automobilemag, in their poll thingy for car, desginer, sports car of the year... etc thingy.... corolla is classified as a small sedan, not family sedan... big difference...

i really hate it when i go to other forums where people would say that corollas belong to the family sedan type... a four door ain't meant for racing, yeah like what the hell is an RX-8 (a four door racing contender)?

first of all, the rolla is too small to be classified as such... and i believe, the rolla was designed to be moddable and upgradable... WHY?

then why did TRD Sports make aftermarket parts such as TRD body kits, TRD grills, performance upgrade parts (like super charger) and the likes for our corolla?

i know this has been discussed before... but i just felt i had to give my two cents on the issue...

i've been asked adviced so many times to change my ride, i dunno why i feel so attached to what i've started... the only thing i know is rollas kick ass...

NUFF said...

i think the corolla isn't viewed as a sporty car like a civic might be, is because it was never made in the two door after 1993..

civic's were always available in either a coupe, sedan, or hatchback form, and most kids would love a coupe or hatchback, so they would lean towards a civic than corolla..

corolla's now are all four door's, and when a 2 door civic pulls up next to you, of course they'll think the civic's faster, it's two doors damnit, it's "sportier"

as oppose to an evo and rx-8? two-door or a four-door? i don't think a sportscar is limited in the number of doors... a minica isn't a sports car either...

But the insurance company in BC doesn't think so.
To them, any car with only 2 doors is sport car and the insurance is higher than 4 doors.
For example, (in BC) 2 doors Echo hb which has the same performance but cheaper than 4 doors Echo hb. However the insurance is higher than 4 doors Echo hb.

the topic ain't even about sports cars actually.... read topic thread...

family sedan? i can barely fit one of my friends in the back seats...maybe some kids could fit back there, but the corolla will always be a fun dependable sporty car

who cares how your car is classified?

i mean.. how would you classify my car?

Have you even seen pictures of the RX-8? It's technically a four door, but that's only because it has those small suicide doors for the backseat. It was built and sits just like any other 2 door.

The reason you see WRXs and Evos not classified as a family sedan is because they put up some ballsy HP numbers, and that's the main reason people buy them. Unfortunately, the Corolla does not put up quite the same numbers, and thus the number one buyers are typically looking for an economical, safe, reliable means of transportation. In no way am I insulting the Corolla, I'm just stating the facts.

How many times have people told me I drive a "slow girlie car"? Too many, because that's all they see. Anytime they see a Celica it's usually driven by a girl who thought of looks and nothing of performance, and drives accordingly. I just deal with it, realizing that I'm a minority in the population of Celica owners.

TRD has made parts for the Camry and the Sienna too. Just because something is moddable does not make it "sporty." Same goes with the Civic DX - possibly has more mods available for that car than any other on earth, but by no means is it sporty.

TRD doesn't make much for pre-03..not anything I'd really want, anyways.

Well lets see how the insurance company considers it. My car was the same as my dads WRX, a sedan. My Honda is considered a Sports Coupe. Go figure.

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Are you saying it should not be called a family sedan because of it's small size? Or are you saying it should be called a sport sedan because you compare it to a RX-8 in your original post. The corolla should really not even be used in the same sentence as RX-8 if so. <br />
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I think if you were to find out why corolla's are purchased, the majority would be for family use and not as a base to build a performance car from. <br />
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Hell, I bought mine to be used as a family car. I put a trd kit on so that I would like the looks of the car better, I didn't notice any power gain after installing it though. <br />
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I do love my corolla because of the ride and reliability of it. But I have owned 16 cars, and the corolla has been the lowest performing car out of all of them. Actually I did have a Toyota pickup with 38&quot; tires and it was a little slow. But I had more fun driving it than I do my corolla. <br />
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If this is your first car, I fully understand the attachment. I still love my first car I owned (68 VW bug).

corolla is listed as a sub-compact sedan.

the corolla is an economy car, nothing more.

same with the civic.

swapping motors into either car or just do basic mods to them does not make them sports cars.


and the rx8 should not be considered a 4 door because the rear "doors" can only be opened from the inside when the driver or passenger door is open.

i think a corolla should be considered a econ family sedan. think that covers all bases

i'm not saying it was built for a sports car, but just as sxlostv1 said, it's a small or sub compact sedan, its not really a family car...

and in response speed racers post...

i posted this thread in oppose to people who are corolla haters and bashers, time and time and again, i see them saying things like... corolla is a family sedan... (four door cars run slow... that's the only reason why i mentioned the RX-8, not because i'm comparing a rollas level with an RX, because for the reason its also a four-door)

ofcourse... but TRD did make performance parts like a super charger right?

Yeah..but unfortunately only for 03+..

Even the supercharger though doesn't add that much power. The cost to power ratio is very very low with it. And with the weak internals of the corolla engine you can't turbo it with to much PSI without a high risk of killing the motor.

I just can't bring myself to calling a corolla sporty after having owned one of these myself (the black cars).

http://www.teamsofaking.com/movies/gns_vs_viper.mpeg

Vortex was running 14psi (10.5 @ sea level) on a stock engine without any problems..where'd you get the 'weak internals' from?

I know a guy who has bungie jumped using several rubber bands woven together. He did it and it didn't break so it must be safe.

That's basically what your telling me. The odds are against it continuing to be safe.

Yes weak internals. Also if you re-read my post, I said there is a HIGH RISK of killing your engine, not that every engine is going to blow.

Basically I mean that by adding the high pressure from forced induction that you are lowering the reliability of the engine.

The Corolla was built with an engine capable of picking up groceries with high MPG. It was not built as the base to build a high performance car from.

Sure you can high PSI it, but you can't tell me that you are not reducing the reliability of the engine in doing so. And the reason why the reliability is reduced is because The engine was not meant to handle it. Why do you think the TRD supercharger is set to give such a low PSI boost, because they have to ensure the warranty on the car.

Please tell me that you don't think a Toyota Corolla Piston Rod and a Cunningham Piston rod are the same strength, or Corolla valve springs and Manley valve springs are the same strength and are capable of taking the same abuse.

Most people who buy Corollas are families looking for a mid-priced sedan. It's an economy car just like a Civic. You can put all the stuff you want into it and spin it around and call it a "sports" car if you like, but in the end, it is still an economical sedan.

It's natural to feel attached to the car you drive. Why wouldn't you. I bet you bash on other cars that other people love as well. You aren't going to change anybody's opinions just because you believe that the Corolla is misclassified. It isn't. TRD makes superchargers for the Sienna. I doubt they built the Sienna for high modability. You can modify any car you like, TRD is just another section of Toyota that is trying to make money any way they can, just like any business.

The RX8 is not a sedan. It's a sports car with two rear suicide doors. The reason people say four doors aren't made for racing is because four doors are typically heavier than their coupe counter-parts if there is one. Imagine what a rave a 2006 Corolla Coupe would be. It'd be even more easier to say that the current Corolla is a family car.

I'm not bashing Corollas. I love my 05 Corolla S, but people have justified reasons for what they believe. No girl has ever turned me down because I drive a Corolla and not some Civic Coupe with the huge muffler that you can hear a block away.

Old women and single mothers love the corolla so that puts it in the same class as buicks and pos kia's, hyundai's, deawoo's.......