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Engine can this be done to a 1989 corolla LE sedan

Discussion in 'Powertrain' started by 98tealrolla, Apr 21, 2005.

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    98tealrolla New Member

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    can this be done to a 1989 corolla LE sedan

    Just out of curiousity. Whats the most powerful engine I would be able to put into this 89 corolla LE that would be a direct fit while also being able to make it awd? I dont really care about price right now I'm just being curious.
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    3S-GTE from celica GT-FOUR
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    98tealrolla New Member

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    its not a custom fit is it? i mean its "plug and play" right?..... and also is it turbo-able... is there any customizing I would have to do to the engine or even the fuel pump, etc in order to make the engine work. Could the LE sedan be turned into a awd vehicle?
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    RexPelagi VDub

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    the 3sgte is turbo, and I believe you would have to make it work, its not plug and play.
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    Tamago New Member

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    there's already an AWD corolla out there, why not use it's components and build up a 4AGZE 1.6? now THAT would be a direct fit..
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    killer2239 Lift at 5700rpm

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    What engine is in the 89 of yours? And also, there is no such thing as plug and play when it comes to modifing your entire drive train.
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    Rolla95 Rollin' Out y0

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    would the 7afe block fit in? if it does, get a 7afe block and a 4age head and make a 7age, thats what i wanna do to my 95...
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    Tamago New Member

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    7AfE/4AGE = same block size.
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    7afe is 1.8liter and 4age is 1.6 right...so u get the lowend of a 7afe and the high ends of a 4age..prolly makew sumtin like 120-130hp im guessin
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    ehh but what's the point? all that work, the 2 different engines you'd need to buy, might as well build a hi-compression 4AGE or low comp turbo..
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    killer2239 Lift at 5700rpm

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    If you use smallport head, and get some better cams. Hi-Comp oem pistons, you can push about 125-135Whp, depending on cams and other things. But you keep all your low end torque of the 7afe as someone said, and you gain high-reving and upper end power of the 4age. Redline saftley to 7000-7500rpm.
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    i already have the 7afe, all i would need is the 4age head
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    killer2239 Lift at 5700rpm

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    Not that simple, you need 4age pistons, oil pan (i think), exhaust manifold or headers for 4age, porsche timing belt, and some other little parts. Youd prolly want to do a complete gasket and seals replacement, get new 7afe oem rods also. Also, youd need to modify your ecu or get a standalone, cause the 7afe ecu restricts the 7age a lot, reving, air to fuel and more.
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    i already have a 98.... i found this 89 corolla LE in the classifieds not too far away for $400. Im thinking of buying it. I was going to see if it was possible to turn it into a awd vehicle with a better engine in it since the stock engine with the awd 89 corolla is only 100 hp from what i saw online. Heres something else I was thinking.... I understand that there is an awd 89..90 celica with a turbo engine making 180hp. Wouldnt this stuff directly bolt-in to the corolla? I understand that I would probably need the correct ecu though. Would I also need a new fuel pump and fuel injectors or other stuff too?
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    killer2239 Lift at 5700rpm

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    I dont think its a direct swap, cause the chassis is different from the celica. And its called an All-Trac celica your thinking of. They stopped in the US in 1993.
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    Let the Doc straighten this here situation out:

    '89 Corolla LE, FWD, 4AFE

    Drop in engines:

    4AGE
    4AGZE
    7AFE

    Best engine to put in:
    4AGZE

    By drop in I mean that it still needs wiring and other modifications, but the engine mounts will bolt up.

    The 3SGTE could fit but it would be a full custom job, and I have never seen it done personally. I could do it but it would take a little while.

    As far as converting it to AWD, I'll tell you right now to just forget about that. It is sooo much easier to buy a car that's already AWD and build that up. Converting a car is very difficult and will need LOTS of custom welding and fabrication. That's even out of the area of what I do, and most people wouldn't even attempt a 3SGTE into a Corolla (FWD).

    Now, about the 7AGE argument:

    The idea is that with the 7AGE you will get more low end torque and still have the top end. In theory this is great, but the 7A rods are very small and weak. Also the crank is not that strong. So basically, if you're going for just a little extra and you happen to have a 7AFE and 4AGE laying around, go for it. Otherwise it's much more cost effective to get a 4AGE or 4AGZE and build that up (turbo).

    A 7AGE will NOT deal with a turbo OR high revs for very long.

    What I would do if I were you:

    You've got a cheap car that you want to build up as a track/weekend/fun car, right? So keep it FWD, but swap in a nice fun engine like a 4AGE silvertop, or a 4AGZE. Upgrade other stuff and then get a LSD (ATB). Then turbo the engine and go from there.

    -Doc
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    damn doc u always gotz the answers for all swaps man u should be named the Swap King man :king: lol
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    Dr Tweak Mad Scientist

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    "The Doc" is good enough for me :)
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    Thing is I thought that since there was already a 1989 awd version of the corolla that I could just buy the parts and install them.

    i mean if its not possible I dont want to go out of my way in making it awd I just wanted to do it if possible.... ill just go ahead and use the 4age engine and keep it fwd then Ill just work on fixing up my present car.
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    Dr Tweak Mad Scientist

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    Nope, the car itself is different. If you could find an alltrac Corolla, then you could install the 4AGE, and that wouldn't be bad.

    -Doc
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    so from what your saying then is that the chassis from the alltrac corolla is set up differently from the regular corolla so then you couldnt just directly bolt on the all trac components from the all trac corolla onto the regular LE corolla then
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    Now you got it.
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    Except the factory AWD wasn't designed for much power/torque, so you'd have to beef up some parts (differentials and axles come to mind first)... especially if you go with a Turbo or the 4AGZE.

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