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Engine 91 Camry engine swap

Discussion in 'Powertrain' started by Tokez420, Dec 1, 2004.

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    Tokez420 Guest

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    5sfe is a very very reliable motor, but not very performance oriented. my dad has a 92 camry with 205,000 and carfax says the miles have been rolled back 20k. its has been overheated many times and still keep on tickin.
    if u have the 2.0L it is a 3sfe. im planning on rebuilding it in the near future. im planning on doin a normal rebuild with maybe some ARP bolts and studs here and there. im gunna go with a GE head of a 3sge celica. now this is only possible with a 93-94 pre 5s block of the camry. the newer blocks arent compatible because the water jackets arent the same i think. and maybe some cams that hopefully dont loose too much low end.
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    91 Camry engine swap

    anyone know of any swaps that can be thrown into a manual 4cyl 91 toyota camry? any help is greatly appreciated...
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    vash Guest

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    yeah a new 5s-fe with a burien turbo kit
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    POBI Guest

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    what car does that come in?
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    vash Guest

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    5s-fe is the camry motor the 2.2 its the engine you should have in there right now and a very good engine if i might add i have a 96 with about 180k on it and still runs like a champ...unless, your model camry is the boxier type and has the 2.0 litre in it i am not sure when the style change was made ill have to look brb....ahhh dip dang do it is the 2 litre but hey u can always build one of those up if u want! they also made an all-trac model that year which would be pretty bad ass if you could build one of those up, that would make an awsome sleeper, but other wise i do not think u can drop a 5s-fe in one of those directly i am not sure never tried but hey see what you can learn, learn how to weld well and the options are endless :)
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    yeah it has the 2 liter but it has 180K on it and wanted to do a str8 swap. doesnt even have to be very fast just a good swap.
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    vash Guest

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    see if u can find any good re man short blocks or antyhing or see what else is out there as far as the heads maybe somewhere has re man heads too who knows do your homework btw are your going to swap it out yourself?
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    i'll check into it and i'll have my father in law do the swap he's done many in his time...
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    I stand correct - on several things, then.

    However, the 5S-FE engines DO have hydraulic engine mounts. They can be fitted to solid rubber mounts, however the form and shape of the engine mounts is still that of a hydraulic strut - no way around that other than modification.
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    Yeah - you have the 2.0L 3S-FE engine. 115hp@5200rpm and 124ft-lb@4400rpm.

    The EASIEST and in my opinion, the best swap would be to get a 3S-GE from a Celica GT (86-89, IIRC). That would bump hp and torque up to around 140hp. It is still a 2.0L, the same engine family, and would drop in without any modification or anything. You could also grab the manual transmission with it also. It would be a direct bolt-up. If you wanted to go all out, get a 3S-GTE turbo from a GT-S Celica. Still the same engine family, so it shouldn't be TOO big of a deal, in terms of fitment.

    You COULD drop a 5S-FE in, but in my opinion, that would be a second choice. The 5S-FE has TERRIBLE top-end power, is heavier and would require major modification to the engine mounts because Toyota switched the 5S over to a hydraulic engine mount, which is WAY different.

    Late,
    Trav

    EDIT: the 5-speed in your Camry is the S51 transmission. The Celica GT 5-speeds are the S53 transmissions and have much stronger synchronizers that would not get fried by the extra power from a 3S-GE. The gear ratios are also smaller, so you'd stay in the powerband when you wanted power. I think the GT-S 5-speeds are the ones used in the 88-91 V6 Camrys.
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    hmm thanks guys
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    The GT-S never came with the 3S-GTE. Only the All-Tracs. The 3S-GE is rated at 135HP.<br />
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    Indeed the 5S-FE has horrible top end. But in return you get good low end. Which is what the engine was designed to do. If you want top end, just send your cams to be regrounded for around $200 and you'll be set. I don't think Toyota switched the 5S-FE's engine mounts to hydralics or w/e you're calling it. If so it would be an issue when swapping in the 3S-GTE or 3S-GE.<br />
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    And about the transmission, <b>I DO NOT SUGGEST THE S-53!!</b> Trust me on this one. The synchros are weak!! Go to MR2OC.com or Celica.net and you'll find many issues with the S-53 tranny. The only way to help it is if you use some Redline transmission fluid or GM/Penzoil Synchromesh. But the tranny is pretty strong. It can hold out a stock 3S-GTE, but theres no telling how long it'll last with it. IMO, I would look into the S-54 tranny. From what I hear Toyota reworked the synchros on it and seems to be as strong as the S-53. It's also the same transmission they use on the 180HP 3S-GE.
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    CorollaULEV is correct on the hydraulic mounts
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    Actually, I was thinking. The S51 and S53 use Dexron II/III ATF. The problem with the synchronizers isn't SO much weakness, it's more of a corrosion problem that causes them to bite the dust. In which case, if you found one with low miles (&lt;100K), then it probably wouldn't be too bad of a deal.

    What engines were the S54 tranny mated to? Is that the gen3 2.2L Camry (92-96) 5-spd?

    Late,
    Trav
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    I only know of the 6th gen Celica to have the S-54 tranny. I'm sure Toyota switched to the S-54 tranny on all 5S-FE powered cars in the mid 90's. I can't verify that though.

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