Ban on Trans Fat

Ban on Trans Fat

New York City becomes the first ever city to implement a ban on foods containing trans fats.....they need to put that into play in places that actually need it, such as Houston, Texas, proclaimed the "fattest" city many times...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16051436/

I agree with the article. I think that NYC is pretty stupid and that if it was that bad, the FDA would have banned it.

Why....in no way are trans fats to any benefit to your body, period. The FDA has guidelines for everything and all this have to do are pass those guidelines. You know just as well as I do that there are ways around everything. For example, if you want to pass vehicle inspection, and your car is modified, just replace it to show them its okay, then put it back the aftermarket part until next time. Besides that, many drugs out there are not FDA certified but theyre still being produced. Only when those drugs begin showing problems in multiple cases will the FDA take any serious action.

Lemme try to illustrate fats in a nutshell for ya. Its been a while since ive had my Nutrition, Anatomy and Physiology classes so bare with me, lol.

Im just gonna explain the chemical composition of them cuz it explains alot if you can understand it.

Fats are pretty much a long chain of "zig zag shaped" bonded carbons. At each carbon, there is a hydrogen molecule there.

When you hear the word "saturated", it basically refers to the density of hydrogens in the chain of bonds.

Saturated fats all have single bonds and have a hydrogen at every possible point it can go. It has no double bonds. They are equal in chains in that if a saturated fat chain were to stack on another saturated fat chain, it would stack well so that if it were to get into spots (such as the circulatory system), it is easier to wash it away.

Unsaturated fats have spots in their chains that do not have a hydrogen molecule because there exist a double bond. Double bonds basically need two single bonds, obviously. Because it takes two single bonds to form a double bond, it takes away from areas that hydrogen can hook on to and because it does not have hydrogens in a few spots, those spots are considered unsaturated. Now, because these two single bonds need to be pulled together in order to become a double bond, it forms a bend in the normally straight chain.

Mono unsaturated fats means there is one bend in the normally straight chain of molecules.
Poly unsaturated fats means there is more than one bend in the normally straight chain of molecules.
Get it, lol.

Because of this bend, in unsaturated fats, they tend to stack unevenly but so conveniently that it can not be flushed out of your circulatory system. This is where plaques come from. Did you know that from the minute you took you first bite of something that had some form of bad unsaturated fat in it, that set off the beginning of the end of your health. Plaques cant be broken down by your body. They must be surgically fixed. Ever heard of atherosclerosis (literally meaning hardened artery)?....ive dissected Aorta's that are just as hard as bone. As you all know, the aorta is the largest artery in your body. If your anatomically savvy with the aorta, then you know that it is HIGHLY HIGHLY important that the aorta is flexible. If its hard as bone, you'll see problems systematically throughout your body.

Trans fats are in a sense, deformed. They have hydrogens, yea, but looking three dimensionally, the hydrogen could bond anywhere. Bad stacking means unusually efficient sticking means CAD (coronary artery disease).

Ever heard of the term hydrogenation. Basically that means they take fats and add more hydrogens to spots that naturally dont have hydrogen. Its to make the food last longer and taste better, i think, i dont remember. Just a rule of thumb, anything hydrogenated is very bad for you. Anything trans fat is bad for you.

Sure some foods with those types of fats tastes good but I guess you'd have to be exposed to the same kinda education I was about health before you made a big health decision.

im glad they banned it

Well I understand your point and I do agree from my personal opinion that it should be banned, but what about all those restaurant owners. I can speak for them because we have a few fast food places. Its gonna suck and the only reason why I would want the FDA to ban it because then the entire nation would have to go through same thing. Now major fast food corporations will have to supply New York City food and Rest of USA food. Its gonna be hassle for the stores owners in NYC. If it was nationwide then everyone would get the new stuff.

yeah well, that's NY for ya hate it or love it.

I don't give a shit either way as long as my food is still fried, that is all I care about hehe.

amen brotha

Also banning trans fat will also increase menu prices. Better start saving up...

^meh, prolly not by much unless its some super high quality restaurant where ever meal is at the very least a $150 sit down meal, then i doubt you'll be able to notice a significantly increase in prices....hey, mcdonalds didnt increase by much, lol...

lol... i'd rather pay a bit more for healthier food.

or better yet learn to cook for yourself...

i can cook i dont always eat out but its nice to know that i can eat a bit healthier..

its a start of a good thing

True however, I don't like the fact that states are telling companies they cannot sell food with trans fat in it. Granted, it is not healthy in any way. Most of the fast food 'joints' have trans fat in their food. (KFC has started to remove it however) But I think it is just a little unconstitutional (for lack of a better word) for states etc to "ban" certain ingredients because they are unhealthy. Fast food is unhealthy, but it should not be illegal. (example) People can NOT buy it. It may not be fda approved, but someone mentioned earlier, neither are a ton of meds these days. I am not defending trans fat as a whole here but the concept of selling a product freely in the US. Hell Cigarettes, smokeless tobacco etc are still legal and are not banned in any state that I am aware of, and they have no health benefits.
I think its part of the freedom we have, one part is to buy what we wish and sell what we wish. (however tobacco is still legal) There is only one way to stop America's obesity, and that is to ban/outlaw/etc fatty foods and foods with high fructose corn syrup which by the way is in most breads you buy now too.
However, that would be rather socialistic of us IMO.
What good would banning trans fats do really? We still have foods with tons of saturated fat in it also, and tons of sodium, and people are still dying of heart attacks etc. IMO it won't help anything really.
That's just my point exactly, trans fat is now gone. Food will not be all the much more healthy... But we will be paying more because we passed a law to mess with free enterprise and screw up the business owners. Kind of hard to see that point when we are just employees. We tend to only see/care about employee problems... We tend to look for a panache, when in fact there is no such thing. there will never be a one-fix it- solution to our problems...
I dunno, I see it as a totally pointless move.

i dont know about you but if something is increasingly being linked to be the cause of certain cancers... i wouldn't care about the price hike.

this is really lame. why does the government need to tell us what we should eat and shouldn't eat? everyone knows that when you eat fast food it is unhealthy and the proper excercise should be worked in. Let people get fat if they want to, it is not our job to police another persons life choices. If they are going to ban trans fat, why not ban tobacoo? that is linked to a lot deaths also. People these days are lazy and don't care if they are getting fat. Let them kill themselves if they want.

I dont know where your getting at it being unconstitutional. In order to open a business of any sort, you have to go through the state and get licensed and all that legal crap. By going through that, you agree to their terms that they set themselves. If you don't like their terms, they have no business in allowing you to continue to do business. Simple as that.

The thing about high fructose corn syrup is completely ridiculous. Youre comparing getting obese from drinking too much pepsi over eating a greasy chicken wing. It probably takes like 20x more high fructose corn syrup to do the same damage that trans fats can do. I think you probably heard or saw something on tv once about high fructose corn syrup and was just sold on how bad it is...i dunno, thats just my assumption, lol.

The thing about saturated fat...well your body can do away with some saturated fat but unsaturated is a different story....and when it comes in the form of unsaturated trans fat, then you have a problem.

Of course there are plenty of other health hazards out there but at least their taking one big step in a good direction. You can't outlaw everything at once. Yea sugar could lead to high blood glucose levels, brain damage, blindness, etc.....and yea, sodium can lead to high blood pressure....hell, next time you go shopping look on the back label of the soups. Hell, ramen noodles alone is half the sodium you need in one day and im sure its nothing for some of us to down a few packages of ramen daily.

And about free enterprise....free enterprise is on a national level. Yea you can start your own business and the government will do little to tell you what to do about how to run it. Its out of their hands. But the states are a different story. Im sure the states could regulate tobacco if they wanted....scary thought, lol.

who cares of that stuff is bad for you?

you should all be pissed off that it was banned. the government has no right to be in our lives like this. if a restaurant wants to use trans fat then they should be able to. it's your choice whether or not you eat it, NOT the governments.

The government isnt the one intervening...the states are....and by agreeing to the state's terms of business, you're allowed to start your business...they can regulate all they want, businesses still have to follow them cuz they didnt have to give approve them from the beginning to start their business if they didnt want to...