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    Nintendo Wii

    When is the Nintendo Wii set to be released? Are stores taking pre-orders for it yet?
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    My03Tundra ROLL OUT!

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    I've heard it will be early November for the system, and the price will be $250 for a loaded system. Virtual Console games will vary in price from $3 to $10, depending on what system they came from.
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    Im gonna buy one for Xmas for my son. I really want PS3, but Ill wait until next year to get that.

    Yeah, read that it was going to be 250...I thought it was going to be under 200. Guess they couldnt meet that goal. Still not a bad price for a new console.
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    Wow that's it? That's a great price.
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    Im going to buy it because my son would enjoy it....and Im fascinated by the new control. It comes with Nintendo Sports, which will have Tennis. I think it will be cool to be jumping around my family room playing tennis with the screen.

    Plus it will have more games geared towards children......

    Ill get PS3 next year after the 1st shipment is weeded out of its bugs
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    I'm getting a Wii for sure, my Buddy works at Nintendo and tells me all the time about his adventures with it and how cool it is. As for PS3, I think Sony screwed up and there is no way I'm going to touch there console at a base price of $600. Plus I personally think blu-ray sucks, I'll wait for the release of the HD-DVD drive for the 360. Also Microsoft is going to be releasing the full version of XNA around chrismas time which will finally bridge the gap between PC and XBOX for game developement and empower non-pro developers to make games from scratch. I can't wait.

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/xna/
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    The base price of 600 for the PS3 isnt too bad...check out the new Game Informer....it has listed all of the consoles, their original price, and the inflated price. Youd be surprised.

    250 bucks in the early 1980s for a game console? Thats a good amount of money back then for a game system.
    And when youre paying over 1k for a HD DVD player.....paying 600 for a game system with the same DVD format isnt too bad.

    Jerry, why do you think HD DVD is superior to Blu Ray?

    Oh:

    Quote, originally posted by CNN »
    New DVD could end format war
    POSTED: 1554 GMT (2354 HKT), September 26, 2006
    AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (Reuters) -- The format war around next generation DVDs may be over before it has begun, thanks to a breakthrough from a British media technology company.

    Britain-based New Medium Enterprises (NME) said on Tuesday it had solved a technical production problem that makes it possible to produce a cheap multiple-layer DVD disk containing one film in different, competing formats.

    "Current technologies to create multiple layer disks mostly don't work. We've created a technology for mass production of multiple layers that does not suffer from the well known problem of low yields," said NME Chief Technology Officer Eugene Levich.

    A low yield means that many DVDs coming off the manufacturing lines are not working and have to be discarded.

    The production costs of a multi-layer DVD using the new NME technology are estimated to be around 9 cents, compared with the 6 cents for a standard single-layer play-back DVD, according to Dutch company ODMS, one of the world's leading makers of production lines for optical disks.

    This 50 percent cost increase compares favorably with the current generation of multi-layer recordable DVD disks which cost 3 to 5 times as much to produce than a single layer disk, due to low yields.

    The technological breakthrough comes one week after three employees at movie studio Warner Bros. filed a patent for the application of multiple formats on a single DVD disc.

    "There's no collision between Warner and us. They patent the application, we are patenting the technology. These are complementary patents. I'm glad it's happened. Warner opened our eyes, because it shows they really want to do this and create multi-format, multi-layer disks," Levich said.

    Time Warner is the world's largest media company and owns Warner Bros. Former Warner Home Video President James Cardwell joined NME as a board member last month.
    Nipped in the bud?

    Multiple format DVD disks can solve the emerging war between the two new high capacity DVD formats: Blu-Ray, which is backed by Sony Corp., and Toshiba-supported HD-DVD.

    High capacity DVD disks are needed to store high definition movies on a single disk. Movies stored in high definition provide five to six times more picture detail than standard definition which is used in normal DVDs.

    Hollywood studios have been choosing sides in the DVD format war, each supporting one of the two formats. Some have said they will produce films in both, in addition to the standard DVD format.

    By putting the same film on a single disk in the two competing formats, movie studios can save money and consumers do not have to worry if they are buying the right disk for their player.

    The technological breakthrough by NME was confirmed by ODMS.

    "I can confirm this. We were very skeptical when NME approached us. We have experience with producing dual layer recordable DVD discs and the yield is below 50 percent. But their technology gives a much higher yield and also brings other cost savings," said ODMS Chief Executive Jadranko Dovic.

    ODMS said it will have the first prototype production line using NME's technology running by early 2007.

    NME said it had also created new technology for the machines which have to read and write the disk, which is another bottleneck with multi-layer disks. The current generation of DVD players can read up to two layers.

    NME has created DVD disks with up to 10 different layers that were still readable. It has created its own player, but it is willing to license the technology to mainstream consumer electronics companies, Levich said.

    Movies on a DVD are stored at different depths depending on the technology. Blu-Ray discs store information only 0.1 millimeter from the surface while HD-DVD discs store it at 0.6 millimeters.

    Movies longer than two hours would need to be stored on two layers of the same format very close to each other.

    Copyright 2006 Reuters. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
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    Sony still pissed me off permanently with the PS2. lol

    However, for what i wanted to do and how i wanted to set things up in my house, the PS3 was not a viable option... 600 bucks for something that didn't do the stuff i wanted it to do was a waste to me. Not true for all people, namely you Eric. PS3 just didnt integrate into my home network the way i wanted. *shrug* all good. it'll be interesting to see how well they do with it. sadly, sony's losing their ass selling it at the price they are with the cost of the components in it. it'll be interesting to see what that does to their playstation division in the future.
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    Damn man, the past tense on what you wrote is freaking me out...is it November and I missed a month somewhere? :)lol

    This is in the newest Game Informer - Oct 06 on page 18
    Basically factor in inflation - this is what you really paid for these consoles in today's dollars

    Odyssey - $487
    Atari VCS - 672
    Mattel Intellivision - 838
    NES - 376 with ROB - 471
    Sega Master System - 369
    Sega Genesis - 328
    SNES - 297
    Neo Geo - 1012
    3DO - 986
    Sega Saturn - 533
    Playstation - 399
    N64 - 258
    Dreamcast - 244
    PS2 - 353
    GameCube - 228
    Xbox - 343
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    haha sorry about that... its past tense to me because the decision wsa in the past. lol :ninjastea
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    HD-DVD has more storage then Blu-Ray in Dual Layer, and last I heard Sony can't figure out how to get the Dual Layer Blu-Ray working. Also there are more titles out on HD-DVD right now then Blu-Ray and that probably has something to do with the cost of mastering the discs and equipment needed. I have heard that HD-DVD mastering hardware is backwards compatible with DVD so it can master both. The Blu-Ray can only master Blu-Ray so I think the HD-DVD is a more cost effective for mass production. Oh yeah and because XBOX doesn't support it...... :D I personally think that Blu-Ray is going to die off in the comming years but that is a bet I'm making with myself. But its not like this would be the first thing that Sony came up with that flopped, they actually have a good track record for trying stuff and having it fail. But as long as one out of 10 because the standard they make there money and its all good :D Since the PlayStation 3 is going to be Blu-Ray based you can bet that the format will atleast be around as long as that console is popular.

    I remember Neo Geo :) They had it at KB Toy's in the mall when I was young for like $500 and the controllers were like $130 each and the games were all around $100. I remember seeing a kids mom buying him the whole set and I was like "Damn!!!!".
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    Compare apples to apples. Dual layer HD DVD has 30Gb capacity, dual layer Blu Ray has 50Gb capacity, that's a fact. And blu Ray theoretical limit is more than 2x HD DVD. As with any new technology, it's an evolution, look for the technology limitations.
    I have used that first generation Toshiba HD DVD and have one thing to say, POS. Of course, it was first on market and bugs are expected. Would I say HD DVD sucks just because that player implementation sucks, no. I think the format war will come down to titles available, and that comes down to who owns the most movie houses. Looks to be an interesting battle, basically Computer guys vs. CE guys.
    As for price, last I heard the Xbox 360 has an EXTERNAL HD-DVD which costs an extra $199. Maybe that makes the PS3 more competitive, because it has a Blu Ray drive built in.
    /Mike
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    I still own my 8 bit NES system, with playable copies of the best games (IMO) ...including Metroid, Final Fantasy, The first 3 Mario Bros, and the first 3 Castlevania's.

    ...am I living in the past here?
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