Question to all the women out there..........

girls initially like guys who don't care if the girl likes them or not.
but that only applies if you make the 'ladder'

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man, you are 17; don't get trapped that young unless you meet a girl thats PERFECT... and if she seems perfect when you meet her, shes not.

forget perfect, i want some dome

can any1 find me the blue book value of a 5'5 135 lb mexican with c's in pretty good condition>?

man I can get you more than one bro lol half the girls I kno are mexican bro and man r they fine lol. So best I can do is what u ask for, almost brand new and CERTIFIED of course lol....

seriously most of my friends are mexican and yes there all damn fine all good looking!

sum1 remove the ladder theory link from here, were already exposing too many secrets

haha nah man it aint' like dat I just thought u were already hooked up from what I read earlier.......

UUUUUHHHHUHUHUHUHU DAMN SHE MAD DAWG!!!! plus I dk man but that does sound pretty messed up.....but that's only me though.

you know it was a joke. i showed when you were over last night

no double standard here. i don't mind a girl that has been with guys because when she is ready to settle down, so already knows what is out there.

differences between a slut and a bitch
slut: a girl that will sleep with anyone including me
bitch: a slut that will sleep with anyone except me

lol that is awesome

this guys crazy!

Gee oh gee... I made a few long posts on the old forum regarding stuff like this. Oh where has it all gone.

First off my man, you gotta change your mindset. You're in the midst of conceited cause you think your so damn perfect and sensitive because you think that's what women want. It's okay to be confident, a good dash of it will get you any woman, but in the wrong mixture, you're screwing yourself over.

Let me break it down for you.

and

Aside from the broken slang, let me tell you what's up. First off, you say you've never kissed her ass. Well, alright then. But you put up this thing that you liked to call "RESPECT" and you "TREATED HER GOOD." What did she do to deserve that? Tits and fits in a dress?

In fact, she didn't give you much respect when you dropped your ass and left you with a "TOO NICE" sticker on your forehead. You were treating a woman good with respect who didn't deserve it. How did she earn your respect, how did she earn your attention? What the hell did she do...

... besides be a woman?

Another thing about you being who you are. I'm gonna bust some philosophy on you, so hang on tight my man. You are the product of your surroundings. Locke said it himself. You are the product of the enviroment that you are in. What you do, what you say, and what you feel are based on everything exterior of you.

Quick question.

If a baby is born without any senses; that is, he cannot see, he cannot feel, he cannot hear, he can not taste, he cannot smell; does that baby think?

Possible Answers From The Crowd
"OF COURSE HE CAN, HE IS HUMAN."
"YES, EVERYONE IS INDIVIDIUAL, HE CAN THINK, HE IS ALIVE ISN'T HE?"
"NO"
"Maybe"
"WHAT KINDA STUPID QUESTION."

For those of you who say yes, let me ask you another question.

ABOUT WHAT?

What can a baby who lacks all sensory experience have to think about? What can he base his emotions on? The true answer. Nothing.

The point is brother, that you may think that you would never change for a woman, BUT... in truth, YOU ALREADY HAVE.

How's that for a kick in the face.

Tell me why you've been treating woman with such respect. Why have you been doing this? You know why? Because everything outside of you tells you to. In fact, you even ask woman for advice (ie: title of this topic). We see it everyday. Sappy movies, sappy love songs, your mother.

I've said it before. All guys' mothers have set them up for failure. They teach you, treat your woman right, share the chores, do anything she wants you to do, don't expect anything in return, don't be greedy, yada yada. Well you know what mama's boy?

SHE SET YOU UP FOR FAILURE.

Quick example. Look at your father, is he anything your mom described? Of course not, she just described all the traits that your father probably does NOT have. And here she is spending the rest of her life with this man.

Would ya look at that.

Okay okay, enough of that, let me tell you what women DO want. First off, it isn't a guy who asks women for advice on how to get women. That shows you are slow unconfident in yourself that you can't even figure it out on your own, and not only that, you're willing to run a charade of a woman's play thing, in order to get it done.

What you need buddy, is CONFIDENCE. Amazingly, some other people on this forum found some articles that I wish I had read because they seem like a prime source of information. Everything I know is based on experience and group discussions (we call it RG TALK). But it's true.

Look at it this way, what does a woman see when they see you? A sweet caring guy, every girls dream, the kind of guy they would marry. But... that's all they see of you. And that is all they will ever see from you if you don't set it through your head.

When was the last time you were attracted to a girl who devoted any time in being the girl a guy wants her to be? Unless she's that in love and desperate, you can almost say never. Wanna know why?

Because CHICKS DIG GUYS WHO AREN'T CHICKS.

Be a man about life. Forget treating women with respect, it isn't in your nature. Your nature is to run wild and free in the jungle, eat when you're hungry, and sleep when you're tired. But since we are not stuck in this thing call "society" we have to find our way to unleash our natural instincts and contribute them to the world.

What are your passions? Cars? Great, devote time into it, like I bet you are doing, but also, what are your passions about YOUR LIFE. Not the material things. What do you want to change about yourself?

As humans, we should constantly be improving, we should constantly be growing and adapting to our enviroment. We should always be looking to self-improvement to improve ourselves. God didn't make us perfect, he'd admit it if we asked him, but he did give us the ability to grow, to learn, to change for the better, and to make an impact on this wide earth.

And here you are worrying about a woman you dropped you.

Get your priorities straight. YOU > HER. You can control yourself, you can't control her. You should have fun with her, but can live without her. I know that very thing is going for her right now.

Before I quit writing this write up and going back to work, I'll answer your question.

WHY DO GUYS GO WITH GIRLS WHO TREAT THEM BAD WHEN THEY SAY THEY WANT A GUY WHO DOES NOT TREAT THEM BAD AND WANT A CUTE FUNNY SENSITIVE GUY?

Quick answer. Girls are liars. They don't know what they want, they never did, they never will. You'll get the girls who get close, but even then, she won't be happy.

Reason? Because a woman wants to be swept off her feet. She wants to not expect the unexepected. If she knew what she wanted, she could never be blown away by what she gets. Write down a list of what you want in a woman and go out and find her. It will be the most boring girl you will ever meet because she's exactly what you wanted, but isn't anything of her own.

Chicks dig confidence above all. Masculinity too (afterall, you do look for a feminine woman don't you?) and really above all, is a guy who has his own ambitions in his life and is striving to reach them without question. He knows what he wants, and he knows how to get it, and to everyone else, there is no doubt he will get it.

You're on the right track, you just got a ways to go. Good luck.

hahahaha that's priceless right there.....

aight man next time I see u then I'll hook u up wit some of my latin girls man hehehehe....i gotz da latin hookupz hehe cha-ching

well thanks for the advice NRM damn that was a lot of reading lol......

words of wisdom are from kurupt and dr.dre, but you cant make a hoe a housewife, a bitch is a bitch, but a dog is a mans best friend...name a STD, hoes are like sam goody...bitches aint shit but hoes n tricks... the only way a guy can get laid or get g/f is if he treats them like shit since girls, mainly since american girls just have no respect towards men that have respect for women, hey guys if u guys act cool and nice with the homies you'll get friends... and if ur a dick/asshole towards women, you'll get em' ask any guy thats below the age of 26. its just how society is nowadays. trust me i learned the hard way in H.S., im in pomona CA and these girls love to be treated like shit, im kinda sad i do it, but hey it gets me girls...so you guys can just blame americanized women for the exstinction of nice guys or how've their respect from women have gone

im gettin a scar and a fuckin gun, i better get some ass that way

a man can only blame himself for his own actions.

hmmm..... which one am i?

Just cars man........I showed up with my Talon to a party last night and beat my friend's Supra and I had some action wit 3 girls later on that night lol.....man I love when I'm welcomed to the winner's circle hehehehe :rule:

ok, found the links:

http://www.angelfire.com/vt2/g_hols/Niceguy (maybe repost of something above?)

http://www.galaktek.com/cgi-bin/index?page=deffect1.html

http://www.galaktek.com/cgi-bin/index?page=ahole.html

It's basically a proven fact that if you're an asshole, you'll get girls...

As for me...I'll be myself, no matter what the cost.

NRM, I agreed with most of what you said, until I reread it. I don't agree on your view regarding respect towards women; I'd like to know how "it's in our nature" to not respect women. I'd also like to know why women should be treated like this (and a good reason, not just so you can get laid). Let's remember that without society, humanity would not have been able to evolve, and without civility, we'd be little better than monkeys.

You really sound like you don't respect girls at all...also, your analysis of a woman's psyche is classically chauvinistic. This attitude is fundamentally dangerous - it's how rape, domestic violence, etc. are all started.

I'm not trying to start an argument with you...again, it's been proven that assholes get girls...but I think you're attitude is over the edge.

Two words.. "Cocky" and "Funny" ... works like a charm

Or try this if you want

http://askmen.com/dating/the_system/

so pretty much something like STIFLER right? lol cause that is one cocky grandmotherfucker and a funny one at that too lol

The majority of us don't know what we want, girls even admit they don't know what they want...only thing you can do is take it in stride and keep on walkin. I'm a nice guy and I know it, never was a ladies man, just a gentleman. I've heard the "too-nice" crap too and soon as I heard it I just turned it off, bam, like that and I said alright if that's how you feel and left. I will never change who I am for someone unless it is for the better. Sure they go after the badasses now, but when they end up in rehab/prison, the ladies always come back, it's like they go through this "I like abusive dumbasses" phase. Key is to not wait around for her and just move on (easier said than done I know, but ya gotta do it), there are many more women out there and god-willing you'll find the one who appreciates a gentleman .