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Hybrid sales not increasing with gas prices

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    1337Rolla oh my

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    Hybrid sales not increasing with gas prices

    [img2=right]http://TRDforums.com/assets/newsimages/prius.jpg[/img2]DETROIT, April 24, 2006; Poornima Gupta writing for Reuters reported that U.S. gas prices have risen nearly a third over the past year without touching off a boom in sales of fuel-efficient hybrid vehicles, some of which are sitting on dealer lots for as long as three months.

    Many U.S. consumers are concluding that what they save in gasoline and on tax credits from driving a hybrid does not justify the roughly $3,000 premium they face at the dealership, even with high and volatile fuel prices, analysts said.

    That poses a problem for car makers including Honda Motor Co. Ltd., Ford Motor Co. and Toyota Motor Corp., that have bet on broadening popularity for hybrids, including more powerful six-cylinder models and sport utility vehicles.

    "What it comes down to is whether you want to pay for that premium right up front... or pay for it incrementally in the form of a different vehicle that gets a slightly lower fuel economy," CSM Worldwide analyst Mike Jackson said.

    Gasoline prices across United States are nearing $3 a gallon, up from $2.23 a year ago, driven by a surge in oil prices to record highs.

    Hybrid vehicles, which use both gasoline and electric power to achieve better mileage, have been touted as a way to reduce consumption of oil and to reduce exhaust emissions.

    Some hybrids qualify for special car pool lanes in some states, a key benefit in traffic-clogged areas. Many also carry federal and state tax incentives.

    But for most U.S. consumers, the economics still favor traditional gasoline-powered cars.

    An April report by Consumer Reports concluded only two hybrids in the U.S. market offer savings over five years and 75,000 miles -- the Honda Civic and the Toyota Prius. Even then, the savings are small: $400 and $300 respectively.

    Other models actually cost between $1,900 and $5,500 more to own and operate, the magazine published by Consumers Union reported. It assumed gasoline prices of $3 per gallon, rising to $4 per gallon over the five years.

    'DO THE MATH'

    "For there to be a major shift in the industry, prices have to go well above $3 a gallon and remain there consistently," said Tom Libby, senior director of industry analysis at Power Information Network. "If you do the math it's still going to take many, many years to recoup your extra price through gas savings."

    Honda has said it may cut production of its Accord hybrid after weaker-than-expected sales in its first four months on the market.

    The Accord hybrid sat 90 days on average on dealer lots last month, while Ford's Escape hybrid took 61 days to sell on average. Toyota Highlander and Lexus RX400h hybrids sat on the lot for over a month, according to Power Information Network.

    The two hot-selling hybrids have been the Prius, selling on average in 8 days, and the Civic hybrid, selling in 12 days, on average.

    Jackson and other analysts said the Prius has been a hit because its distinctive styling immediately identifies it as a hybrid -- conferring a kind of halo effect for its drivers.

    The lack of broader sales momentum has prompted some automakers to offer discounts on hybrids.

    Ford is offering interest-free loans, and has underwritten a national ad campaign, featuring Kermit the Frog singing: "It is easy being green."

    Ford and other automakers have a lot of investment riding on the hybrid market. Ford is planning to increase production of the gasoline-electric vehicles tenfold to 250,000 by 2010.

    Toyota is targeting sales of 400,000 hybrids this year. General Motors Corp.(GM.N: Quote, Profile, Research), Nissan Motor Co.(7201.T: Quote, Profile, Research) and others all plan to introduce hybrid models in coming years.


    http://theautochannel.com/news/2006/04/24/004769.html
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    Cuz theyre STUPID LOOKIN
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    And talk about under-powered...yeesh, no hill climbing ability.
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    actually I was almost beat by a prius doing a hill climb one day. I stayed in 5th gear though the entire way. Basically they were pulling on me most of the hill climb then their batteries ran out near the top.. then I went flying past still in 5th
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    Gimme a Camry Hybrid and i'd be happy, pretty good gas mileage and it accelerates faster than the previous-gen V6 Camry...
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    I wonder how much of it is attributed to the fact people just assume gas prices will go back down. I know everyday I hear people saying that its only a matter of time until they drop again, when in all actuallity until something is done on the executive or legislative level (more tax free months, taking away tax breaks to oil companies, an actual attempt to raise mpg regulations) prices will just continue to rise.
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    hybrides have just as much power as the gasoline engines they put in it because it is that that is doing the acc. but then they are limited to the size of teh engine bay, and the electric motor and the battery pack isn't helping teh power to weight ratio at all. Hybrid = waste of money IMO
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    The hybrid is a good concept, it's just underdeveloped. If you can keep the car running at idle speeds (stuck in traffic, waiting at a red light) w/o using gas, it's a good plan.
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    Like any new technology, with time it will further improve... just look at the performance of the first Prius/Insight compared tot he Hybrids today, they've already improved the technology alot... and i'm sure Toyota and Honda won't be resting on their laurels either...

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