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Immigration protests

Is it just me or is anybody else getting sick of kids just walking out of school for something that they could care less about. If your going to do something write a letter to your local rep or soemthing along those lines dont walk out of school and almost start a riot. If 100 child molestors protested would congress make child molesting legal?

I think for half of them it's just an opportunity for them to ditch school!

I agree. There's more effective ways of getting your message across than just bitching.

well if i was in charge at any of those schools they would be suspended and not be able to walk at graduation

are you talking college or high school kids? b/c colleges really wouldn't care.

Then you get the ones that get parents involved saying your punishing them cause they wanted to make a statement. which goes against their rights. blah blah blah. so suspending all those kids wouldn't help. I think it'd just cause more issues.

Kids are just doing it cause they want a day off of school. Maybe some do it cause they really want to make a statement but others don't care.

well high school of course.. this is just getting out of hand i belive we need to bring in the national gaurd and solve the problem at the borders

well man I guess most people are not in favor of the illegal immigration situation that is going on right now and I heard something on the radio while I was working that it really struck me, the guy says "Well I think it's time for Bush and Fox to sit down on the table and play it straight as it is and for Bush to say, Fox it is not my fault that your country is full of poverty and low class, we certainly don't need that here."...... hearing this guy run his mouth just made my blood boil man but again well he doesn't know what it's like to be an immigrant working for a better future for his family..... I dk I prefer to stay out of this whole immigration talk and stuff cause I tend to get pretty pissed off but well hopefully they'll come out with something that's fair for both sides.

eric it was a referance to the protests. It seems like the goverment will do something to calm the people down wich usually means giving in on something. Iam all for people working and making a honest living but do it legally its not that hard honestly. If you go into any other country and have a medical emergency and your not a legal resident they will turn you down. America is sending kids thru school who arnt legal and they are getting free health care. I dont have healthcare now because I cant afford it now it is fair that immigrants have coverage I dont think so

corollarider19, don't assume everyone knows what you're talking about.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/28/national/main1447009.shtml

you being in the media dont know the protests about immigration

I dunno if its so much of a protest....more like an awareness rally in my opinion...newayz, about all this immigration crap, its mainly geared towards the illegal hispanics....and I think illegal is illegal and the laws against them need to be stricter....it took somewhere around 8 years for this one family that our family is friends with to finally get approved to come to america...and its not like the philippines is seperated by a cement wall between it and america...theres a couple thousand miles of open sea...they had to fill up an application, petition (to the governor, embassy, etc...), blah blah blah, and wait...and 8 years later, it paid off...so the illegal hispanics that are in the news holding up signs asking for american rights should, quite bluntly put, be sent back and given the opportunity to apply just like we had to back in the 80s, just like our family friends had to, just like every single one of our family members had do...to say that it would hurt the american economy as a defense mechanism to keep them here is just a complete side step of implementing LAW....also, those who are caught, dont just need to be photographed and sent back (which is literally the process now), they also need punishments set forth by that natives country so it has to be a join task....I support the idea of employers being prosecuted for providing jobs to illegal immigrants because otherwise, their main reason to come in the first place (to work and make a better living) would just be suppressed...the philippines is under the same poor work, living, and economic conditions so you wont see any sympathy from me....im sorry...

:signGives i dont give a f**k...

As much as its illegal, all these illegal "hispanics" (altho they make up most of the illegals, but not 100% of them) will do jobs others will not.

Let me ask you this. Are you willing to work 15-16 hour days 7 days a week for pennies? Knowing you have to bust your butt to do the work? If everyone in this country said they'd be willing to do that, then I can see passing a stricter law to prevent illegals from entering the country. Which by the way can always be worked around. Do you honestly think the borders are the main problem? Remember that illegals can enter the country by boat and plane as well. Some may enter the country with someone else's info. Some may enter legally but then have a Visa expire and that makes them illegal. Granted some abuse the system, which i'm not fond of, but others really work hard.

Imagine having these millions of people go back to their country and then have them sign up for a Visa. Do you honestly think it'll get done in time? You said it took 8 years for someone to get in the country. Well that delay will and can turn out to be even longer.

I agree to send those back that abuse the system and are causing nothing but trouble. But if a person really is working to support their family here and/or even back home, then let them be. Alot of people compare their country to others saying their poor and have it just as bad. But coming to the states for better living conditions are not the only reason people come here. Remember that the value of a dollar here is ALOT more then the value in other countries. Therefore, the more money they make here, the more money it is in other countries. For example, I did some research and found out that the dollar here is alot stronger than the Domincan Republic (where i'm going for my honeymoon). A friend of ours who was just there and has family there said that $20.00 USD can pay for groceries for a family of 4 for an entire week. And we're talking about good food not just the little stuff. $100.00 USD for a single person can last them a whole month to pay bills and things. This is why they value the business so much. Same things goes in Cuba. Countries that attract tourists from the US usually sell their merchandise in USD. Why? cause of the value of the dollar.

Every person that I knew that came to this country legally and illegally have pretty much the same reasons for coming, THE MONEY. This is why they work hard to get what they have. Sometimes I wonder how in the world they make it when they have a family of 5 and only one person working. And thats cause they're dedicated to their work. And I haven't seen a person do a half ass job on something. Cause they know if they do a good job, then they got an instant job if they come back for more.

So to me, if you're gonna send people back, send those who are taking this country for granted and not doing shit with their lives. The others who have a legit reason for being here and are doing good, let them stay. But thats just the way I see things.

IMO the non-immigrant students should march in protest to this march. If the illegal immigrants take all the jobs that high school students usually take, where are the high schoolers going to work?

and after working in a restaurant where 90% of the employees are illegal and dont even have driver licenses but drive anyway, i think the laws should be stricter

So jose and adam go to the same school. Jose is a legal immigrant and adam is a US Citizen. So you're saying Adam can protest and not Jose, just cause he's an immigrant? Thats bullshit if you ask me. Anyone and everyone should be able to protest what they believe is right or wrong. I'm hoping you just worded that wrong.

High school students will always have jobs. Not many of them are fond of working at McDonalds or Wendy's for minimum wage. You'd be surprised how many kids expect to get paid more than minimum wage for jobs and not want to work long hours or on weekends. And remember something, in order for an "illegal" to work at a resturant, they must have papers in order to get a paycheck. An employer can't just hire someone without a SSN, especially at an establishment where county and state officals can just walk in and do random checks.

However, if they do it off the books, then yes I can see them working there (but not for long), but alot of businesses will not hire illegals or pay off the books knowing they can get audited in no time flat. Some businesses will look for "extra help" for the day and pay cash and use the excuse that they only needed extra help for the day and not do any paperwork. hell, that can happen with anyone not just an illegals.

And you can't even begin to mention how they drive without licenses cause from what i remember, you don't have to be an illegal to do that. ANYONE in this country can do that. So if you want a law stricter for that, then it should be for everyone cause driving w/o a license is illegal no matter what. And I'm still wondering what the hell driving w/o a license has to do with any of this.

Edit...And my question to you. How do you know who is working illegally at a resturant? Do you go by word of mouth (possible rumors) or do you know someone on the inside that tells you this? cause remember something, if something were to get passed where anyone associated with illegals gets locked up, you'd be up there with them getting arrested cause since YOU knew about it, that would make you part of the crime. Granted you didn't do anything wrong, but in the eyes of the law, you did wrong.

he said NON-IMMIGRANTS. Jose is an immgrant here legally (does not have ot be a US Citizen. he can be here on a Visa and waiting to get his citizenship). He never said US Citizen.

he specified resturants. What resturant have you gone to that has 90% of the staff is made up of illegal immigrants? Like I said before, they can hire them off the books like the ones that stand in front of the stores. They aren't documented just merely hired as "extra help for the day" as most employers will say. This is a stupid example but just so you see what i'm trying to say. put aside the legal and illegal status for a minute. A kid looking to shovel the driveway to your business when it snowed and an immigrant wants to do the same. are you gonna ask any of them for documents? or are you just going to pay them $5.00 and let them do the job? thats what I was trying to say.

And I know some businesses do it. Whether the person is an illegal or not. Some will pay off the books. But thats a risk they are taking.

I can't disagree with you there. but the way he worded it is the way I took it.

And at least you wouldn't get in trouble if anything were to ever go down cause you were honest enough. The way he said things, its like he knew about it all and never said anything about it. which makes him just as bad as the others who knew about it and didn't say anything to the employer.

the whole issue here is the gov'ts attempt to "scare" the nation.

"Oh no...illegals are coming over...oh no!!"

So what? This country was build on the sweat and blood of immigrants...legal or not. I can't blieve my eyes when I read comments posted by you guys...

"you don’t give a F*ck!"
"walk outs have no impact"

how can you say that? if the walk out did not have any impact...then why would they be all over the media? cause they are getting a point across...yes, granted some students are doing just to get out, but most are doing because they believe in something...something bigger.

during the 70s civil rights movement...the same comments were made..."who gives a F"..."walkout have not impact"...

also, Latinos do have a significant impact in the US economy. True is that within 10 years we will be the majority of this nation. meaning...we will contribute the majority to the US economy. and the way it'll be proven...(in a smaller scale)...will be on May 1. On May 1 all Latinos across the nation will boycott...we will boycott any purchases...school...and even work. Reason for this is to proven to America...that we are a major part of this nation...not just the illegals...

the reason i'm so passionate about this topic is because, like alot of over Latino Citizens, my parents came here to build a better life for us (their children)...and now you are trying to take away that right (and i mean basic human right of survival)...the right to live.

how? he specifically said "Non-Immigrant students". that means a person who is a citizen. Therefore, if a person is here on a visa or whatever, he basically is excluding them. A person with a Visa is here legally, therefore, allowing them to have some type of rights.

If you still think i'm wording him wrong, then YOU tell me what he meant by non-immigrant student.

I have nothing against the hispanic work ethic...nor do I have a problem with them making an honest hard living. But where I begin to feel uneasy is how they (illegals) even got to apply. I dont think that its the case of no one else wants the job they do. Illegals typically do jobs such as construction, fast food, housekeeping, plumbing, etc...those are jobs that any race has the capability of doing and are given the same equal opportunity. To say that hispanics do the dirty jobs that others dont is just degrading to all hispanics and they are not limited to dirty jobs...its just, without proper education or documentation, then of course the only jobs that they're able to get are those that can be considered dirty. But if they have no right to be here, they have no right to work, but overall, they just have no right. They're illegal! They dont belong to this country because they did not go through the process in order to belong to this country like an honest would-be citizen should. And that thing about how the Dominican Republic's dollar is worth much less than the American dollar, well thats no reason to commit a crime and enter a different country illegally. Back when I visited the Philippines about 6 years ago, $20 USD was equivalent to 800 Pesos give or take...so I kno where your coming from with the money but its still not a rationale for coming to America illegally.

Like I said, our family friends (5 people) took around 8 years to finally get the ok to come to America..they said two years after they put their application in to come here, the money was already gathered up for all of them to come to America together. So that money had to sit there for 6 years until they were approved. They did it the honest way. To put it into terms, imagine that you're waiting in a very very very long line to get into, say, the Superbowl. Tickets are very expensive and you've been saving up the whole year just to go to this one event. While you're waiting in this long line, you see 2 people buy tickets from a scalper for almost nothing and run up to the front and cut in line...instead of waiting like everyone else and paying like everyone else, bought the cheap tickets in and just cut in line...now don't tell me that would piss you off tremendously.....thats why I feel the way I do...because our family also had to play the waiting game while other illegals just walk over (fly, swim, whatever) the imaginary line to America....And on my history, I believe my dad came here alone in 1981 (he was the only one that could afford it when he was approved)..then came back and took my other aunts and uncles here when they had the money and approval around 1984...I was born in 85 and came here in 1988...

I get what you're saying but i'm understanding what he's saying, differently. he said non-immigrant. Which to me excludes anyone who is an immigrant. Either you're an immigrant to this country or your not. Its one or the other. My point was that an immigrant or non-immigrant can protest no matter what, not just a "non-immigrant". I'm sure there are immigrants in the country who don't agree with the protests.