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Do i need a camber kit with these numbers......

Discussion in 'Stop, Drop & Roll' started by ghoztrider, Nov 28, 2005.

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    ghoztrider New Member

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    Do i need a camber kit with these numbers......

    I had my alighment done at firestone station and here is teh sheet they gave me and they said i need a minor camber kit adjustment....

    What kind of camber kit do i need, a 1 degree kit, or a 2 degree kit and how badly do i need it... I thought trd springs and kyb gr-2 struts wouldn't need a camber kit

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    This is why I hate chain stores alignments, they could've at least equalized the front camber. As for the rear, the right is barely within range and left is way too negative. You'd need camber bolts for the rear to add at least 1degree, perferabaly +2deg. And have them try to equalize the rear to -.20camber. A two wheel alignment on the rear with a camber kit would be the easiest/cheapest/quickest fix.

    But IMO the front camber needs some adjustment as well, I'd take it to a better shop and have them spec the alignment to -.5 up front on both sides, or at least equalize the right with the left.

    Right now you have more negative camber in the back than the front, that would kill your handleing abilities and increase understeer. On the everyday driver, your rear tires would suffer from camber wear (inside wears quicker than outside)
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    hmmm alright, so out of all of these alightment kits which would be the best then

    http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/...ent&category=BootMount&autoModClar=&brand=all

    the car still pulls to the right and stuff, can't wait for my winter tires and steelies to come in so i can put them on and get all this straightened out and not have any more vibration or pulling. I realize the vibration comes from unbalanced wheels, but tirerack balanced my tires and steelies already at their facility, so all i need is this and thats it
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    I like the ingalls above eibach because their bolts use a cam instead of just a pin to pivot the strut for camber adjustment. But I would rather get a set from SPC, they are simular to ingalls but 1 bolt on each side would adjust up to 1.75deg
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    i need up to 2 degrees i guess.... How much would it cost to get a camber kit done and installed....

    i was thinking, if these were the numbers wit my rims and my 205/45/16 tires, would i not need a camber kit if my alighnment got done wit stock tire size of 185/65/14? or should i get the front and rear 2 degree kit?
    How much is the installation
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    As long as your tire/rims specs stays consistant you're fine. I'm not sure about install price, its pretty simple, though some shops charge more for alignment with camberbolts because they're kinda a bitch to use.
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    na i'm gion down in size big time, goin from my current tire 205/45/16 to stock size 185/65/14 for the winter with some new blizzaks

    i was under the impression that you need to take apart the suspension to put in the camber kits and stuff....

    maybe by goin to stock tire size i won't need a camber kit till the summer when i go back to using the 16 inch tire again
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    going from 185/65/14 to 205/45/16 is infact consistant. The rim diameter might be different but the overall diameter of rim/tires stays relatively the same due to the difference in the height of the sidewalls on your 14's vs the 16's.
    http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
    This would help illustrate what I am talking about.

    The complexity of a "camber kit" depends on the suspension design and what OE equipment it has to replace. In the case of camber bolt on a macpherson strut suspension (on our corollas), they replace either only the top or both the strut to carrier bolt to pivot the carier about the strut.
    http://www.specprod.com/PROD_DIR/C_PROD_passcar_SEARCH_DYN.cfm?cmd=Cam&cmd2=81250&cmd3=
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    I have a 2" drop front and rear and goodyear was able to adjust my camber without the need of a kit or addon.
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    i need a camber adjust caused i got trd springs and im now lowered. I'm thinking if i go to a different place to get my alighment they'll do it the right way and it will be off only be like .01degrees off spec so it won' tbe too much of a problem
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    yea... too bad wheel offset has nothing to do with camber angle.

    The shop I go to does spec alignments for autoxers and road racers so they usually like to keep numbers exact and wouldn't mind doing off spec alignments. Most other shops just put adjust the alignment until it's withing specs and call it a day.
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    i just don't want my tires to wear uneven and my car not to pull to one side... Technically i shouldn't have a problem and i sholdn't need a camber kit... if anything if its just slightly off i'll just rotate my tires every oil change
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    How much you get so muc camber with TRD spring since most of us doesn't even have any problem with S-tech??
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    idk..... i shouldn't have a problem..... its probably the firestone station
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    oops actualy i made a mistake the lft actually needs to be a little postive or nuetral do to drivers weight

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