coilover sleeves, yes or no??

coilover sleeves, yes or no??

Hey guys I was wondering how are coilover sleeves. I want to be able to lower and raise my car with out spending a lot of money. I found some skunk2 sleeves that's seem good but I wanted to know from some body that had them or have really seen how they are and how they handle

i experience skunk2 coilovers sleeve in my friends 02' celica gts and the ride was wasnt that comfortable and kinda bouncy through smalls dips and bumps,the handling on turns is ok. if you want great coilover sleeve i always recommend ground control the ride is comfortable even on small dips and bumps never bouncy going through turns is better than skunk2 but its all preference for some people. also i suggest you buy struts like tokico or kyb but its up to you both are great struts and some people had bad experience with tokico blues but for me i never had any bad experience but comfortable ride.

NO NO NO. Save up for full coilovers or just do springs and struts.

i don't understand all the hate on sleeve kits if getting new struts and something like a ground control quality kit. yes, everyone knows a 200-way adjustable coil-over system is better. when you put into context the car and use of the coil-over than a sleeve is more than enough to get the desired result most people want which is a lower stance. 99% of people will never use a coil-over for the track and on top of that it's going on a corolla (or another economy car) which hardly needs a high dollar suspension.

I agree IF you're not using them on the track or anything related. The suspension geometry of coilover sleeves is pretty piss poor. The travel on each spring is different from one another giving completely unpredictable responses. Coilover sleeves are pretty much just to lower for show.

negative. nuff said

Dude, no one takes their corolla to the track. its like 10:1 ratio Civic-Corolla.

YES, SOME people do, but its usually done for looks.

My issue is with safety aspect of this type of modification. Sure you can save some money going with decent sleeves on a good strut - but in the end, still a hack job. Taking two independent components that you put together and toss on the car.

Full coilover setups are "made" that way, not a hack job. Granted, only a very small fraction will actually ever use the full capabilities of the coilover, but they can be assured that the components are designed for a much wider range than what they need (ie. damping and springs rates correctly chosen).

Unless you spend the time and research the proper spring rate and damping characteristics of the separate coil and strut - so that you can maintain control of the car in an emergency situation. Trying to save money on an adjustable suspension is a bad idea - this is one area where great gains can be had in the Corolla chassis - not something you want to skimp on / resort to a hack job on.

If you want the look of a drop - but not be so low that you are forced to raise it up in certain situations - then look into something like Tein S.Techs and a Tokico strut. Smooth ride, decent handling, and 2"-2.5" drop when it is settled. If you plan on raising and lowering the car fairly often - then you might look into an airbag setup. Cost wise would be comparable to a higher end coilover setup - but you can quickly control everything from inside the car.

ok so not skunk2 for sure. but i found some ground control ones for 400 and some nex(how are there FULL COILOVERS?) for 720=which im not really trying to spend. i only plan on using the coilovers for lowering and raising my car, not for the track or anything. i just want a comfortable ride, and a low car(with out buying air bags). and if i do buy the groundcontrol ones which spring should i get and can i use my shock thats on my car now??

I had the NEX SS coilovers at one time. Great for daily driving. Not that expensive too considering when you lower, the cost of springs, struts, installation, and alignment exceed 700 anyways. Coilovers you can pop in yourself since they're a complete replacement unit and drive over to your alignment shop.

What happen to that set up you had??

I sold them and switched to Ksports for a much more aggressive feel.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Grou...rQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_2612wt_934


replace your stock strut for either one of this(below)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOKI...Q5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_2498wt_1160

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KYB-...arQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_500wt_900

True have you seen this combo before??

Because you really need aggressive suspension in a stock toyota corolla.

It's stock now.

any of the tokico and kyb goes well with the groundcontrol,its your choice.

ok.. and what type of springs should i get on the groundcontrol sleeves

because they have you pick between "1=STOCK 2=TOKICO HP 3=TOKICO ILLUMINA 4=KONI 5=BILSTEIN 7=KYB 8=KYB AGX 9=GAP R 10=GAP HP" for the springs

Just match the spring rates to the struts that you plan on getting. If you are planning on running Tokico HP struts, then pick spring set #2. Ground Control did the work for you, so you don't have to calculate out the rates yourself.