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Coordinated Terrorist Attack in London

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    Coordinated Terrorist Attack in London

    Tune in to your local news channel.

    Busses, subways attacked. 8 seperate locations all at almost the exact same time.
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    teevee247 Well-Known Member

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    It's definitely a choreographed attack... damn... scary... :(
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    Tony Blair had some FIGHTING WORDS....wow
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    corollarider19 New Member

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    Tony is pissed...now i guess people in London now support the war on terrior
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    al6176 New Member

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    I have been talked to regarding my opinions in the past so I will watch my words carefully as to not offend anyone. If you are British or have friends or family that were affected, please accept my condolences. I can tell you that I am not surprised by this. Great Britain just like many other countries have to be more careful in choosing who they allow to become citizens or residents of their countries.
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    corollarider19 New Member

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    well they said it wasnt a matter of where it would happin it was a matter of when
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    What is your ethnicity?
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    Bulletproofswordsman JDM Oroku-Saki

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    this whole terrorism situation is ridiculous
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    al6176 New Member

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    E_andree, I know what you are thinking. It is not a racist remark. I am mexican. Believe me, I know what I am talking about. If you are really interested in how I know this, pm me and I'll explain it to you.
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    TurismoDreamin ΓΡΗΓΟΡΟΣ ΟΔΗΓΟΣ

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    nah, i dont think thats a racist comment cuz i kno where ur comin from man....but im sure the people who coordinated these attacks probably werent citizens or residents.....probably got in through forged documents or something like that...and assuming that the ones involved were citizens or residents, they probably were already living there or natives there who opposed the convention and decision for the olympic games to be held there....either way, they have to step up their intelligence....plus, they already said al-queda took responsibility....

    i personally shake my head at the fact that the UK called israel or some mid-east place, a few hours before the attack to tell israel that the UK is aware of a possible attack but they didnt do nething bout it.....and also that the US waited to raise the terror alert in the US until the attack took place....did our intelligence isnt gonna get any relay of it??....only after the attack took place did the terror alert shift from yellow (elevated) to orange (high)...now, places like nyc is gonna have a police officer on every subway train today during rush hour, all of tomorrow, and all of the next day....the CIA says they treat every tip as reliable information and take action to it....where will they be when the next inevitable attack happens....waiting??...
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    heh they had intelligence on the whole 9/11 attacks as well... they just didn't know how or when it would happen. the biggest thing you have to be aware of is you can't just raise the awareness levels on a whim, otherwise people become accustom to it and eventually ignore it. For instance, if our threat alert sat at orange all the time - we would see about the same way we see ' yellow ' --- ' oh we're still at yellow, business as usual ' blah blah.. so raising the level every time there is intelligence pointing towards an attack you just can't do. However, an attack to an allie and possibility towards us does merit a raise to orange and an imminent attack that could not be thwarted or an occurance of an attack merits a raise to red... just my view.
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    Cuztomrollaz98 MAD VLAD!

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    wow man with all this I don't even feel safe at home man.... wow :eek:, this world is getting crazier and crazier by the minute... ridiculous
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    TurismoDreamin ΓΡΗΓΟΡΟΣ ΟΔΗΓΟΣ

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    yea, but to be so aware of an attack as to go as far as calling a country and telling them you know about it...that just sounds a bit iffy to me....however, i agree with ur view...
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    Yeah, you may know about an impending attack, but what are you going to be able to do about it?

    The threat level raising today is a reminder, not to instill fear. After a period of time, the general public lets their guard down. That empty package on the subway train, that very suspicous man taking video of the entrance of a prominant building, etc wont register to the general public after a while. Raising the alert reminds everyone to be diligent, and to keep an eye out.
    100 police officers at one subway probably wouldnt have deterred todays attacks.....especially if it was by the hands of a suicide bomber.

    You cant group every person of middle eastern decent into the same catagory as a terrorist....you just cant do it. If you do, you are very ignorant. Less than one half of one tenth of the arab population is part of a terrorist faction. Its ridiculous. This attack was planned to directly correlate with the start of the G8 Summit.

    Its not a matter of IF, its a matter of WHEN will the terrorists strike thg United States again. I can guarantee that there are people within the United States as we speak waiting for the word..its a sad and scary thought, but its something that the US people have to be prepared and ready for, mentally and physically.

    I do think that the borders to these countries need to be tightened, but even then, its easy for determined groups to get into the countries.

    And I havent heard or read anywhere that the UK called Isreal to tell them about an impending attack, and I was watching every news wire from the start of the attacks to about 3PM EDT.....where did you read or see that?
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    What is a terrorist???? What does a terrorist look like???? Did you know that many of the terrorists' around today are highly educated people, some with doctorates, some with 3 or 4 degrees. These terrorists are very intelligent. They know what they are doing. And you say that it is not citizens or residents that helped facilitate these attacks. Then who? Terrorists know that they are being sought after when they enter a country. Therefore, their plans are facilitated by sympathizers who are already in the country where they plan on causing damage. That is the reason why I made the comment above. It was not meant to be racist or derrogatory in any way. As all of you know, there was a male caucasian u.s. citizen fighting against our troops in afghanistan. So anyone of any race can be a terrorist.
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    First off, I mean no offense here, but I only hope to promote selfless thinking.
    Yes but they do not have to be citizens. I disagree with the comment that we have to watch who becomes citizens. That cannot possibly help at all. The only effect there is rattling everyone's cages. You cannot be more careful in choosing who we allow to be residents. Because then you start eliminating people who look like terrorists, going off of prejudgement. And to do a extensive background search on every man and woman that wants to become a citizen (provided they give thir real name) could cost governments tons of money. The only way to be completely safe, if there is a way, is to lock down everything and take all freedoms away. IMO, that is no way to live. I understand that you did not mean it to be a racist comment, but it was. Whatever a person's background that does not give them "racist comment immunity". A white person, mexican. black, or whatever color or ethnic background could have made your comment and it would have been just as bad.
    Chew on this, people constantly think about locking the borders down as a solution. That's horrible, to lock down the borders after our families arrived, is, well just damn selfish. many bad people came here then, and they come here now. They will be coming here or be born here until Christ's return, if you so believe. If you don't then until the end of the world. There is no measure we can take to ensure the kind of safety we want. On my mother's side of the family, we have only been in this country for the last 3 generations, so I take this issue to heart, and take great offense to that comment you made, whether you meant it or not. I am not mad at you for making it, but I do fear your line of thought, as it is a dangerous one.
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    thats some scary shit considering i was there a little over a month ago for a week.
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    An islamic leader warned in a portuguease newspaper 15 months ago that a major attack would occur in London, by Al Qaida Europe.
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    Tony's speach was rather articulate. I am probably so used to the cowboy speak from G.W. It still seemed oddly accurate. Almost as if he was being fed a speech through a very tiny transmitter imbedded in his ear canal. With all paranoia aside, the fact remains that he is English and I've noticed that the English do tend to speak better than Americans. Am I missing the point? :p I'm in my own world right now... heh
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    And? This is very common practice during speeches....they read off cards, or they read off a teleprompter, or by an earpiece....its a speech, not a debate. Someone else even writes the speech most of the time.
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    I figured that some were pre-written. I also figured that some people would just be able to speak about things. I don't know, I just don't like how it feels coming from someone. It feels very fake and disconnected. Politicians probably can't speak from their heart. They use words like "condolences". I just don't feel that it's really sincere. Maybe I just have a problem with politicians... The media is a different world than I know. I've never had to talk to the public like that. I'm sure it's a usefull tool, but I don't see these people as being genuine. Basically it looks more like acting than actually expressing to me.

    Thanks for the education. I really didn't know, just assumed.
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    I've done a little reading so to say, and looks like the main objective of these "people" are to change our way of life. I'm not saying just to put fear in us, or to make us pull out of our forward deployed operations. Their main objective is to have a muslim world. What I mean by that is, they think all other relegion is false right. Just like the chrisitians think jesus is the son of God, and that in order to be saved you must confess your sins and be a christian. The muslims believe that their is only one God, and everyone else is wrong. But the Koran goes that extra mile in saying (and i read) that the christians and the jews are evil (infidels), and that they wil try to change you (muslims). Your goal is to change them because the Muslim way is right. If they wont change then they must die. That if they must, then kill in the name of Allah to keep them from changing. Seems to me that they want a muslim world. If we give them what they want then they want more. This is just a little cover-up to what they really want. Putting little cells over the world. So tell me what happens if we give them what they want and get out of their countrys. Me...I think they keep going till they take it all. A little too close to this end of the world thing.
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    Well, on the day of the attack, Blair made a comment from Gleneagle, Scotland, the location of the G8 Summit. That speech was totally unscripted. An hour and a half later, he spoke again, which was his official comment on the situation, with the leaders of the G8 standing behind him as support, and that speech was totally unscripted as well.
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    I'd like to see those speeches. Maybe I change my opinion. I wonder if they are on CNN.com. I'll have to wait to use the high speed at work.
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    Looks like the bus bomber was a suicide bomber.
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    Bishop4695- Keep in mind that "Muslims" do not think like that. Its these radical Islamic Fundamentalists who are the problem, not muslims or the Islamic religion as a whole. I can't believe how many people ive heard that dont seem to understand that.
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    Its ignorance.
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    indeed.
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    All Four Suicide Bombers

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