9006 to 9005 Low Beam Conversion

9006 to 9005 Low Beam Conversion

Low beam not bright enough? Check out this DIY:

http://www.bmwe34.net/E34main/Upgrade/More_light.htm

Make sure your headlights are aimed!

kool, anyone try this before?

what are the wattages of each bulb?

from the stock 9th gen corolla, i believe the low beams are 51W and the highs are 60W

prolly burn up the wire.

they also have heavy duty wires for the headlight upgrades such as this one.

you would get better results going HIR...also the focal lenth is different between the 9006 and 9005, you would get backscatter and gain nothing...

HIR 9011 to replace the 9005 Hi beam $30
http://www.hirheadlights.com/ (best alternative to HID)
you can use also go Phillips euro 9006 HV (clear and 50% better than stock and 20% more than US version the Xtravision) $10
H-3AW Narva (AW is all weather) in the fogs $8

9006 - 55 watts - 1000 lumens
9005 - 65 watts - 1700 lumens

9012 - 55 watts - 1870 lumens
9011 - 65 watts - 2350 lumens

D2R HID capsule - 35 watts - 2800 lumens

Trunk light replaced with 3652

http://www.automotive-lighting.com/...9&idproduct=150

194, 14V, 2 cp/25 lumens, 2500 hrs 4 watts
168, 14V, 3 cp/38 lumens, 1500 hrs 5 watts
3652, 13.5V, 6 cp/75 lumens, 700 hrs 5 watts

DOT standards are 55 and 65 in most cars including the 2003 -2005 Corolla

I just ordered the HIR's for my low beams...I'll try to take pictures when I get them.

interesting

good deal! let us know how they work out ;]

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...did you just wink at me???...

chill out. its a effin happy face

I don't have a digital camera (except my phone) right now. So do you guys really want the pictures or just my personal account of the difference. In other words, can I go and install them now or do you want me to wait till Monday, and steal my work camera for a day?

ok...screw the pictures...I'm installing them NOW.

OMG! Don't buy them!! My Silverstars are brighter AND whiter than these. Ugg...I'm out $60 now.......you think I can sell them on ebay?

you got gipped lol

thanks albert

Question , what year and model is your car???


learn somthing before you advise others...

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/...ulbs/bulbs.html

Dude, you being fooled, you are seeing glare from the Silverstars, your seeing backscatter...

from Philips site....

"9006 silverstars are 1000 lumens +/-10% and i think they aim for the upper 10% error. the 9005's are 1700 lumens and +/-10%, again, aiming for the upper 10% error"

see

here's the skinny


Halogen bulbs only give off so many lumens per watt. Covering the bulb with any blue material actually decreases lingt while increasing glare to oncoming drivers. One other problem it refracts off weather, like rain, fog, snow etc...

also learn somthing before you advise others...

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/...ulbs/bulbs.html

I know all this already. What is your point???

Do you actually use these bulbs?

Have you taken the time to compare both sets of bulbs?

I have, and I've compared them side by side and by themselves.
Both about 15ft. away from the wall and down a level parking lot.

I've come to the conclusion that the Silverstars are much better.

But I invite you to conduct your own comparison to prove me wrong.

I would actually love to have you prove me wrong, so I wouldn't feel so bad about wasting my money.

using your naked eye??? you are seeing reflected glare, ...

proof??

the lumens are higher....science, not your garage door test...


also on the 9005 and 9006 switch...

9005 shank is smaller in diameter than 9006 shank, which means 9005 shakes, rattles and rolls in 9006 bulb holder (despite clever tricks like doubled-up O-rings). This causes beam pattern flicker effects and the vibration induces early bulb failure, which exacerbates the 9005's very short lifespan (320 rated hours, acceptable for high beam service but annoyingly short for low beam, compare ordinary 9006 at 800 to 1000 hours). Also, 9005 lacks the blacktop at the end of the bulb that is necessary in low beams and fog lamps that do not incorporate full-cup bulb shields. Not a problem in most projector (polyellipsoidal) low beams, but a real problem in reflector-type low beams and in fog lamps.

The '91-'95 "decontented" E32/E34 BMW reflector low beams come to mind.

9012 (HIR2 bulb) is a much better solution. More light than 9005, long life equivalent to 9006, has necessary blacktop, shank is the correct diameter.


enjoy...

What I see on the road is what matters to me, not the amount of lumens an instrument will measure. The 9006 silverstars lit up the wall and parking lot much better than the 9012's. I want to see more of the road, the silverstars seem to do that better than the 9012's.

PS: wanna buy these bulbs off me to conduct your own tests?

I'm going for the HIR upgrade-- everything about it is smarter than trying to put a 9005 where a 9006 should go. Everything SoCal_CJ has said is correct-- the fit is better, the black cap on the tip of the envelope is present, and the filament placement is correct for the optical properties of the reflector and lens.

Additionally, the HIR lamps produce more light with the same wattage as the lamps they replace-- which means, of course, that they produce less heat. And in four-lamp systems in which all four filaments are burning when you are using your high beams, the increased electrical draw (an additional 20W) from using the wrong bulbs in the low-beam lamps will cause more work (albeit slightly) for the alternator and additional heating (also slight) of the wiring.

So would you like to buy my 9012's that I've only used for 10 minutes max. for only $20 each plus shipping?

Let me think about that one-- that's a pretty decent offer, really.

dude do not do it, no warrenty and who knows what this joker did to them, he obiously has no sence to look at any evidence, and you have to mod the plastic tab a bit so who knows if he did it right, I would just get the new ones...

I work at a aircraft manufacture.... I do not work at HIR bulbs , com or Daniel Stern and you can get then at either place, I got no vested interest..try Daniel he is the light guru of gurus, and a hell of a lot more qualified than this guy who is looking a glare and backscatter and does not know it and not smart enough to listen to what experts are telling him...he is going on his vast experence, and testing procedure...he is smarter than GE on lighting ya know...

HIRs were first used in the Viper, but Dodge wants $90 a bulb for the same 9012 or 9011...I belive Daniel sells them for the same $30 as HIR bulbs does...

My last car had Cibe Euro headlights, better focal lenth than ours and even better than Euro Hellas, then had clear 100/130 bulbs, upgraded headlight harness, Optima battery and a 250 amp $700 alternator connected to the battery direct with 0 gage wires..and throught the harness both, now they were brighter, so I do know a bit too...but the HIRs rock on a stock system and do not fry the wires...as no extra drain

from another post I saved once...My truck had:

Ok just wanted to share and maybe save you all a buck, Ok just wanted to share and maybe save you all a buck, save some headaches from my $$ cash and time wasting mistakes. And try to help… OK OK and yes boast a little on the lighting mod I have done.

First word in lighting Daniel Stern

Tell Daniel, Chuck D. with the Toyota Truck from sent you:

http://lighting.mbz.org/products/products.html

I have these fogs (blows them all away

Marchal Charlie (Series 950
Yellow fog beam, black housing with chrome bezel: $119/ea
Price includes durable stone shield cover.

And I have these (even better than Euro Hellas

CIBIE headlamps
200mm x 142mm (75/8" x 5.5")Hr high/low beam with internal parking light: $49/ea
I use the internal parking light AKA city lights as a daytime running lamp that I can turn or off at will.

Daniel has a PVC "2 liter coke bottle" like material covers for the headlights and with a slight mod, cutting of the bottom strip they can fit the fogs too, you see these fogs are extra large. There made by Focus, like $10 or so way better and does not interrupt the beam pattern than protective wire grills, and "stoneguard"
http://www.stoneguard.com/sgcontent/what_sgl.asp
The film you glue on...Don’t get me started, one thing is heat cracks, and yellowing....need I say more?

Rear Fog by Hella (Bought it from Daniel but you can see it here)
http://catalog.com/susq/hella/rearfog.htm
81101
2 1/2"h x 5 7/8"w x 3 1/4"d and 3 1/4" from mounting surface to top of lamp, I have 3492 euro bulbs in it SEE Bulbs below...

I am not a PIAA fan but have their 4040 back up lamp, have been good over the years and very bright!
See: http://www.piaa.com/Lamps/Lamp-pages/4040bu.html I also have a wire guard over this one, can not seem to find another kind and the wire mesh does not interrupt the beam on a flood light style anyway so...
Rexguard-201-784-8848, had for most PIAAs even made them for the eyeball shaped 959s too, went out of business a year or so ago but the new owner has some limited stock, but not very helpful, a little rough and gruff, and this is a Lady...

Side turn signal indicators
Mounted Lucas L734 SIDE REPEATER LAMP, Chrome Base, one center hole and two small mounting screws, easy like a lock, keeps the honest people honest, this jerks still cut you off, and wont let you over but they help with the honest drivers. Question, when did using your turn signals in urban areas become a sign of weakness? If I signal to get over folks speed up to close the gap, I am doing 70, and my tailpipe does not smoke so I don’t get it??
I got it here
http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/SVCMORELIGHTS.HTM
But you can probably get through Daniel now

I also added a 1995 Toyota stock painted to match 3rd brake light.

All have heavy duty relays and oversized wire, and a Mechman 150 amp alternator hooks direct to batt pos and neg and hooks into the wiring harness, this is unique...
www.mechman.com
Tell Dennis "CJ" from OC Fire sent you great guy to work with.

Used the stock cutout fitting Cole Hersee switches to run them all.

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...&productId=8147




See also

http://www.4x4wire.com/ubb/ultimate...c;f=13;t=014446

And for bulbs...
No blue bulbs, no PIAA bulbs, headlights have Narva (good German engineering!) clear 100/130 bulbs, no science behind that blue stuff and as for the PIAA "55 watts = 85 output" please...

Per a Daniel recommendation...

This is for a 91 truck

if you use a 1156 for back ups and turns (some don’t, 4 runners use a 921 I think for B/U, that is I think) geeze I got beat up at YotaTech’s for this, even the moderators nailed me, saying I was lying as I put it clearly “use 3497 for B/U this would be a direct replacement for the trucks 1156 back up bulb"
They nailed me!! As the 4Runner does not use the 1156 so they tried to put the 3497 into a 921 hole and called me a liar, I mean if you don’t use an 1156...then this would not work...I am sorry for not knowing your vehicle, you should be sorry for not looking at the bulb, duh

Correct. Note 3496 and 3497 are not Euro, they're Japanese. Hondas use them.

But if you use an 1156 use a direct fit 3497
Or I am told even better backup light replacement for 1156 is 796. 35W halogen, only 7W more than stock 1156 (27W) but WAY more light
See:
796: 60 candlepower 35 watts
3497: 45 candlepower 27 watts
1156: 32 candlepower 27wattts

If you use an 1157 for Brakes and running use a direct fit 3496

3496: 43/4 candlepower 27/8 watts
1157: 32/3 candlepower 27/8 watts
2057: 32/2 candlepower 27/8 watts

For a 194 commonly used for license plates use a 2825
Or for amber use 2827*
My dome is a 3022 no euro for this
My 3rd brake light is a 921 no euro
My SR5 duel maps are 3175 no euro

You get a major candlepower improvement for not much bucks and no real noticeable heat difference, no noticeable wattage difference, no lifespan difference, so no after market “super halogen” like damage to stock housings.
I did a few other tricks like the silver paint on the B/u dividers on http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/minutemods/tail_lights/
Page and the side marker lights into turn signals on Daniels page: (see or for amber use 2827 I got from Volvo dealer) http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/marker...arkerflash.html
and/or: http://www.kersur.net/~btillman/bob...vw/side_marker/

I like it better than the one where you replace the 194 with a 1157 http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4x...urnSignal.shtml,

By the by nice site guys...and good job on all you have done there!

http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4Runner.shtml#Vehicle
This one as well:
http://fastq.com/~sschaefer/

Good solid info...thanks to all!

So enjoy and keep on keeping on

Got my Hella rear fog from Daniel Stern but for

More Hella etc. see these guys:

http://catalog.com/susq/hella/clr01.htm

Clear hard plastic stone shields cool site and good vendor.

http://bbs.off-road.com/photobb/sho...cat=500&thumb=1

some photos here will add more later

Hope you Enjoy

[ January 15, 2003, 02:40 AM: Message edited by: BestToyer ]
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BestToyer
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Member # 11558 posted December 07, 2002 02:59 AM
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some folks asked for photos here ya go...

http://bbs.off-road.com/photobb/sho...cat=500&thumb=1

some photos here will add more later
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