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student suspended for calling mom in iraq

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    I wouldve done the same thing.....that may have been the last time he talked to his mom, so the punishment is worth the crime.
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    i agree but i dont think the school should have done anything like that.. so what cell phones arnt allowed in school but everybody carries them
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    That's pretty fucking rediculous. He deserved something for not obeying the teacher right away, but 10 days is bullshit.
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    He got combative though....thats why it was 10 days
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    the only way in my school that u got ten days was if you were a repeat offender or you actually touched the teacher in an unsafe way
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    <b>&quot;Kevin got defiant and disorderly,&quot; Parham said. &quot;When a kid becomes out of control like that they can either be arrested or suspended for 10 days. Now being that his mother is in Iraq, we're not trying to cause her any undue hardship; he was suspended for 10 days.&quot;</b>
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    yea well i would like to know exactly what he did.. disorderly can cover anything.. as long as he didnt strike a teacher the suspension isnt warranted.. swearing is just a minor offense along with being defiant imo
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    Maybe not up in farm country where you are, but many bigger city schools are putting strict guidelines into place. You cuss out a teacher, and get defiant, the police are called. Too much liability nowadays for school officials to respond in situations like that.
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    what are the police going to do... if its not illegal to swear at the police then how can they make it illegal to say something to a teacher.
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    If you want to be a cop, youre going to have to change some of your views man. Put your personal feelings aside and look at it 100% from the side of the laws/regulations.

    School districts set rules and guidelines. If you swear at your teacher, what do you expect them to do? Let you do it? No, they send ya to the office so the top dawgs can deal with ya. If you continue to swear at the office people, do you expect them to just let you sit there and continue to swear? No, you threaten suspension or you call the police. Either or.

    In this case, they gave him suspension, and probably contacted his parent to come and pick him up. The other option was to call the police, and they can arrest him for disorderly contact or disturbing the peace. (Which you should know about from your classes!)
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    iam looking at it from both sides and i guess i have to look at it from a cops point of view.. if the kid touched the teacher right there it becomes and assult because teachers have special protection just like fireman and all civil personal do... but thats besides the point.. i would only charge him with disturbing the peace if that..
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    Which is why they didnt call the police in this situation.
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    i think they should have made an exception in this case his mom was in iraq
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    I think they should have made an exception as well......but we dont know exactly what progressed when they told him to turn off the phone. He also stepped outside of the school to take the call.
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    true... schools now a days with zero tolerance they can do whatever they want whenever.. it sucks
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    Well, with students bringing knives and guns to school, they have to have that no tolerance policies.
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    to a point
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    How many shootings and stabbings did your school have in the four years that you attended?
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    none... but zero tolerance wasnt in effect untill my last year
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    He's a minor..It would be a baby sitting job for the officer to take them to the station... me personally.. I'd have the school call the parents ... making the police take the kid is rediculous... I can see the police going if the kid was out of control.. but not to make an arrest.
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    If I had been the teacher, I would have confirmed that he really was talking to his mom and then provided a quiet place for him to talk to her. And we wonder why kids hate school!
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    I take this story to heart guys, my dad was over seas for 3 month periods, that isn't a lot of time like these kids that are having to go with out for years at a time. I would have done the same thing, curs but not punch, if they took the phone away from me I would have went out swinging. I would not put up with that crap dudes.
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    You know that is bullshit because when I was deployed and my sister was in high school she had a similar situation when I called and she refused to hang up and now she is in Iraq and I would never miss her car no matter what time she called!
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    no, E, it's infringing on your (supposed) right to bear arms.

    GOD FORBID THAT PEOPLE TREAT IT LIKE AN INSTITUTION FOR LEARNING AND WANT TO KEEP THE KIDS SAFE.
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    If you had to fear witnessing a stabbing or a shooting, you would have approved of a no tolerance policy in your school.
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    falnfenix Well-Known Member

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    AGREED.
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    i think the zero tolerance policy kinda infringes on my civil rights... but i know its for the good of the order
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    how does it infringe on your civil rights. PLEASE PLEASE explain that to me. Im dying to hear what you have to say.....and when you say zero tolerance, they cant do WHATEVER they want, WHENEVER they want, like you say. If there is a fight, they can call the parents and suspend the student. OR call the police and have them deal with the student. How is that infringing on YOUR rights?

    Im sorry, but you have all of these views and personal feelings about rights infringment, and you want to be a cop? Maybe your views will change within the next 2-5 years until you are a police officer, IF you become a police officer.
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    my high school had a zero tolerance policy, and things were pretty sedate. it didn't infringe on anyone's rights, and it certainly didn't result in kids going to jail or getting hauled out of class in cuffs unless they committed a true felony(i.e. drug possession with intent to sell - which did happen, once).

    schools SHOULD have 0 tolerance policies in place...especially after incidents like Columbine.
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