Best Brake Pads

Hawk HPS or HP+

Best Brake Pads

Hey what do you guys think is the best performance pads. I have tried Hawk performance pads but they eventually squeek and don't last long but love the extra grip they provided. OEM have crappy grip. Any recommendatons for the front and back?

btw I have a 98 rolla

I am using ProStop Quiet Stops (they are ceramics) with Brembo cross drilled and slotted rotors on my 02 and I have no problems, I actually love that combo and it has saved my ass when some dumbass drivers pull in front of me

Agreed

where does one get these..? cuz i really hate the stock pads. i almost got in an accident driving my car home the first time.

give ebc green stuff a try.

i am a return buyer after trying their pads i currently run ebc rotors as well with fresh green stuff pads.

hmm, i think toyota oem pads are the best so far that i have had. i dont think i ever heard of someone saying the stock pads were bad. unless people are driving 100mph and need to slow down in like 2 seconds where does it matter? I dont think a brake pad is the problem. A brake pad is a brake pad under normal driving as long as it meets minimum specs.

i heard good about the green pads
imo lightweight 14' or 15' stop better
my 0.2

I was under the impression that the only advantage to ceramic is that they are a material that creates less brake dust at the risk they squeak occasionally, i wasn't aware that they were any better at braking as opposed to another type. I had ceramic and the squeaked from the second i put them on till i had them replaced with more OEM ones because it was so unbearable.<br />
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And plus, im gonna add that as someone who has had teh brembo drilled/slotted rotors on his 01 for about 1 1/2 years, they are no better at braking than the stock rotors. <br />
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Im not bashing your setup, i just dont like to see people reading posts and thinking just because the appearance changes the performance goes up cause most of the time that is not the case. I will say this however, if for nothing else, get the slotted/drilled for the looks and not the performance and you will be happier because if i had to say so, i would say the stock rotors were better than the brembos.

If you look closely at most racing setups, they're usually only slotted and not drilled. Cross drilled rotors hurt the structual integrity of the rotors maKing them more prone to cracking... especially on street cars. On full race cars with brake ducts, the holes do help cool the rotors but they also change out their brakes before every race. One last thing to note, on REAL brembo rotors the holes are actually forged into the rotors during the manufactureing process, not drilled into after they're made.

This reason is also why powerslot and EBC make cosmetic dimples to simulate the "cross drilled" look, these dimples arm't any deeper than the minimum thickness specs the rotor can be.

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the ceramic pads are supposed to be much more suited to handle cross drilled and/or slotted rotors. they also handle heat better. the bad thing is they usually have to be warmed up. i have a set of ceramic pads which worked well after warming them up in the morning. they were pretty dangerous though because you have to step on the pedal really hard to stop in the beginning. ceramic pads are usually used for the track where they get on the brakes hard over and over again.<br />
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obviously if the brake rotor is the same diameter and width the braking is not going to get much better. they supposedly have a better initial &quot;bite&quot; and can grab better with the cross drilled and slotted face on the rotors. there may be some truth to this. the best things they are good at is cleaning the brake pad face off and cooling the rotor down better when not in use.

right. as i was reading i was going to mention that the holes are actually made in the manufacturing process. this is the best way to do it. i ran the brembo blanks that were cross drilled and slotted and had no problems with them what-so-ever. there were no cracks anywhere on either rotor.

Just purchased a pair of HPS for $49 with ship from eBay; they keep listing them as rear, but they’re fronts:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...992420&tc=photo

Waiting on Brembo blanks with cadmium (gold) plating to complete the brakes; Corolla 98-01 rotors are vented already, see the rotor edge? Those are air channels; you want more venting?… remove the dust shields up front.

I prefer uncut rotors to have the most surface area in contact with the pads, if these drilled/slotted rotors are so good for street use at stopping power, I thing the government, automakers and insurance companies would want us to have them on our stock cars and they would have been a standard feature a while ago, before daytime running lights.

alby.. I think it also has something to do with the climate. The danger is when water gets into the holes, freezes, expands and cause the rotors to crack.. but we live in cali so it sall good.

Dex.. if you look at it that way you would notice most performance cars do come with slotted rotors (I stressed sloted NOT drilled). WRX STI/Lancer EVO/350Z (w/ sport package)/G35/M3 and more exotic makes like lambos,ferraris etc..
Also brake drums arn't that great for stopping power either but they are found on all lower end toyotas, hondas etc.. Economy parts for economy cars but there are always room for upgrade.

yeah, i can believe that the weather plays a part in it.

I have the same problem with my brakes they started making nosie from the start........I asked around and the brother of the guy thats doing some work on our home said that you need to sand down the the paint on the brake if you look at the brake from the side so that all you see is a thiner brake ====== you sill see its black and that manny times its that little paint that makes its sqeek


BTW He showed me on my bothers car what he was talking about..........he works on cars for a living so next time I have a free weekend I will take my brakes out to see whats going on in there.

I am really really hard on my brakes, I love driving backroads and for me this setup has been great. I dont have brake fade, it takes a lot more brake presure for my wheels to lock (no ABS here) . I really dont care how they look as long as they perform.

As with the structual integrity, I have no problems with mines. They have been on the car for about a year, never had to chage the pads yet, there is no cracking etc.. that people might associate from getting cross-drilled/slotted rotors, even after winter.