800HP 2.4L Toyota Engine

cliff notes....? i got sick of reading your garbage awhile ago

care to answer the question posed over and over again yet?

lol, i cant wait till someone takes the time to pick you apart..... youre clearly a hypocrite from what i skimmed over so far

OH.... a penis joke..... so clever nowadays, im willing to bet you just started using this new thing called the internet

....i need cliffnotes on this thread....

Ok one last time

Ok I'll try once more to explain something that isn’t being understood.
A chassis dyno consists mainly of two 2400 lb drums that are linked to a computer through several sensors.
These sensors report not only rpm, but acceleration as well.

This data that the sensors send to the computer is run through a computer program.
In that program is the ability to recalibrate any of the feeds that the sensors produce.
Are you with me so far?

OK.
If you change the dynamic loading numbers that are coming from the rollers (drums) you can effectively change the results that will read out on the graph, which BTW starts out as just a bunch of numbers that don't seem to mean anything until the program makes sense out of them.

So at the low end of the graph it shows about 50 hp at 2k rpm, for a drag loading set at say 50%, it would mean that the graph should show roughly twice the hp that was actually being produced, but it doesn't because the sensors don't work in a linear fashion, which is what I think is confusing someone here tonight.

This is because as the drums are being accelerated it is taking more and more hp to spin the drums faster and faster, but not in a linear fashion.

In other words, it might take 100hp to spin the drums up to 100rpm, in 3 seconds, but it might take 300hp to spin the drums at 200rpm, in 8 seconds, and perhaps 600hp to spin them up to 300rpm, in 14 seconds.

Understand?

The loading will always be "dynamic", not "static", or linear, in nature.
That's why the HP "curve" is a curve, and not a straight line.
And that may be the reason somebody here can't figure out why the curve looks sort of normal, with about 50hp @ 2krpm, but 800+hp at 7000rpm.

And I never said I was trying to disprove the validity of the graph.
If you look at what I wrote, you would see that I said that I was "skeptical" that a 2.4 liter Toyota engine produced it.
But eventually someone else, who also doesn't know where this graph came from, or how it was produced, described some car (MR2) that produced 600hp, and had a "stroked" 2.4.

Now if it was a stroked 2.4, the description probably would have mentioned that.
But even that aside.

All I have tried to do here was show that everything you see here, that isn't in some way documented, could just be nothing more than an "Urban Legend" kind of thing.

That's why I suggested that maybe somebody took a real dyno sheet and "played" with it a bit.

That's happened around our shop on a couple of occasions, just to blow some bodies mind.

After all, how good would you feel if you brought me a 1zz-fe, and I gave you a read-out that showed 450hp, without the benefit of forced air induction?

You would be floating.
Walking around with a silly grin on your face, now wouldn't you?
Sure you would.
And until somebody spilled the beans, you would be asking me, seriously, how I did it.

It was simple.
I made the dyno lie by changing the programming.

I sincerely hope this explains what I have been trying to get across all night.

Dynos can be easily made to produce false results by their operators.

And until I see any documentation on just what this alleged 2.4 Toyota engine consists of, I will continue to doubt the graph that is posted at the beginning of this thread.

For all any of us knows, it could be legit. And it could also be a completely different engine than what it says it is.

And then again, it could just be an April Fools Day joke, just to see what kind of response it would invoke.

Sounds like fun to me.

and with that last post you've just succeeded in doing what you said you never did...congrats.

so as i said last time...

hmmm thats funny my old room @ my parent's house is the exact opposite (only cuz I made it that way)...but still man lay off already...the motor put it out the #s u see whether u believe it or not

tee hee..... thank you pork chop for finally answering my question after so long, because someone else lacked the capacity to answer that and just wanted to keep repeating the processes of a dynomometer..... and some other shit i didnt really read