Engine 04 S and Spray?

04 S and Spray?

All right I have NOTHING done to my 04 S, but I am going to start soon. I was wondering though, what do you guys think of spraying on a 1zz-fe. It's a manual, so that's not an issue, but I don't want to really hurt it, just want it to use on track day at Rockingham. So from those who know. What can I safely do and how

hahaha you could run a 65 shot and be fine i once used a 75 nozzle and nothing bad happend i run the 65 shot all the time (at least 30 times) and threw regular tune ups, everything is fine. i wouldnt suggest doing a direct port tho, my car shoots a dry kit threw the throttle body. i would suggest getting a venom 400 recluse kit, my car was there proto type for the 1zz-fe engine. the computer that was sent out was on the basis of my car. they will tune the computer to your cars exact specs for free! well at least they did to mine anyway, maybe cause i was the first idk?

an intake is nessacary for nitrous, hi flow exhaust would also be helpful. better yet just save your money up and get a turbo kit, my mistake was investing in the wrong parts at the wrong time. i bought intake exhaust and rims, which could have bought me a decent turbo set up.

You must've spent a LOT on rims.

I'm running a Nitrous Express 35 shot (wet) -- there's no reason to go with a direct port shot unless you're running 75+. Wet is preferred to dry, since it automatically provides the correct amount of fuel, instead of relying on the car's computer/sensors to figure it out. Less risk of leaning out..safer that way.

The factory intake will work fine..I have an EL Prototypes; that works also..you just have to drill a hole for the n2o nozzle.

I'm very happy with my NX kit -- they have incredible support if you have any problems.

With everything I've done to my car, I might have barely been able to afford a turbo -- but probably not much (or nothing) else..

i ran a zex 50 shot on my 03 rolla and it ran fine but yeah u should really consider getting your basci coltons like intake header exhaust and better tires

just go with a simple kit since your stock. Nothing bigger than a 50 shot, and that might be pushing it. Anytime you run nitrous (especially on a stock motor) its going to wear on your engine.

i will show you pics, god damn! fucking non believers. if i post pics will you finally shut up and kiss my fucking feet lol! for me proving you wrong. i love proving people wrong.

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35 shot is nothing. ive ran my 65 shot like at least 30 times, no problem, engine tone is the same, no check engine, nothing. i was told that a safe shot could be anywhere up to half the stock hp in your car. my friend has an acura legend and he has a direct port 100 shot of NOS to his car. it has 200k on the motor! were trying to blow the motor, if you havent realized. we shot it like 3 times, but thus has proven as an ineffective means of distroying his motor....lol...damn honda engines.

Wow... Cadetlee ripped your post apart. I wasnt going to say anything about it because I havent done a setup in my rolla with nitrous, but a 75 dry shot through the throttlebody, come on. Im kinda skeptical about yoru nitrous system... i'd love to see some pictures. sorry, im just a non believer.

Nitrous shouldn't cause a CE light anyways.

I'm running a 35 shot because:
1) It is recommended to run the smallest jet setting when you're setting the system up (I've used about half the bottle, but I don't have a heater, so I have to keep it almost full to use it properly)
2) I have 152,000+ miles on my engine, and being a poor college student, I can't run the risk, however minimal, of breaking anything..piston ring, rod, etc.

If you want to blow the motor, run a 100 shot -- dry. Also, if the objective is to blow the motor, why bother with the extra work of a direct port setup? Btw -- it's a 100 shot of nitrous - NOS is a brand name. That's a bit nitpicky..but whatever.

I'm not saying you don't have an n2o setup in your car; I'm just saying what I have learned -- both online, from Nitrous Express, and from personal experience.

According to the pros at Nitrous Express, never, ever rely on the 'friend', 'nitrous guru', or local shop. I'm not disagreeing, though -- I bought my kit from n2o rolla, who was running a 75 shot.

Personally, I wouldn't run even a 50 shot dry -- but I prefer to err on the side of caution.

Take it as you will.

i'll 0wnz y0u aLL at the track with 250 shot of NAWZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Isn't it if you run over a 50 shot of nitrous you have to retard your ignition? I thought about running a 35 wet setup off my 4afe, but I have over 165,*** miles and Im affriad something will go wrong...

I'll never kiss anyones feet, especially some ones who is most likely slower than me and takes the cheesy way out by running a bottle and killing the life span of his motor just for a few tenths of a sec. I would go that route but I like my car to start every morning. If you think that running that dry 65 shot ALL THE TIME is perfectly fine on your STOCK motor... your in for a wake-up call.

I like being proven wrong... It rarely happens, but when it does its pretty funny. Just make sure its YOUR car.


and 1 last thing...

QUIT DOUBLE POSTING!

I think you double up on EVERY post you make, my god. I've been around for a while and your still a noob so calm down buddy.

for one venom is not a no-name brand. in fact it has been in tuner magizines stating that it is the safest, best kit on the market for entry level nitrous users. it comes with a programable computer that works with your stock ecu. it can adjust the amounts of fuel to inject within tenths of a second to prevent your engine from running too lean. also in the event that if your car were to run lean it is programmed to stop the flow of nitrous and turn your engine off completly. so in theroy, THEROY, you could run a 100shot on a stock motor for about a split second before your engine shuts off. like i said in other posts i have ran a 75 shot once. i hit it for about 2 seconds in third gear before i saw my rpms dip to zero, then turn itself back on a split second later, showing the system is effective. again that is only a THEROY i would never try it unless i wanted another motor.

NX kits don't require retarded timing -- at least not the EFI kit for 75-shot and under. Using colder plugs & 93 octane should do the trick.

I'm waiting to get my ZEX kit from my friend that has 55/65/75 shot settings. The thing to remember when you use nitrous is that no matter how perfectly you install it, it WILL wear out your engine faster. No matter what. ANYTHING that makes an engine generate that much more hp than stock is gonna cause increased wear and tear. However, if done properly, you can minimize the risk. Also, not running rediculously high settings is a good idea too.

When mine gets here, I'm def. having a professional install it, and I'm gonna get the ZEX colder-range spark plugs and I still have to determine whether or not I'll have to retard the ignition. I hope I won't have to do that, because I imagine it's gonna be a PITA.

Even with a Fidanza flywheel, it takes my engine a second or two to drop down to zero rpm -- and that's assuming you were either in neutral or pressed the clutch -- if you didn't, the engine would keep turning. If the link between the wheels and engine isn't broken, the engine can't go to zero rpm without either breaking something or locking the tires. =)

Is the fuel purely ECU/piggy-back controlled, or does the Venom kit tap into the fuel line as well?

so if you hit nitrous can u hold down the button to get more juice than just hitting it and letting go? Which one is safer a turbo or nitrous?

Nitrous isn't supposed to be used on the street..so naturally you're not going to find cars that come stock with it. You don't buy cars new with slicks either..

A properly set up nitrous system should be as safe as a turbocharger or supercharger.

Nitrous oxide is an oxidizer, and isn't inherently flammable..my gas tank is more of a safety hazard than my n2o bottle is.

--&gt; http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Pages/faq.htm =)

A turbo is alot safer than nitrous. Think about it... turbos come on cars stock all the time, when was the last time you went to the local dealership and saw a car with nitrous in it? Also, Nitrous is highly flammable... a turbine isnt, haha.

yeah i heard about that

when's TRD coming out with there nitrous systems hehe

I was being sarcastic... I guess it wasnt obvious enough.

alright sorry for the question, just trying to get some info as well