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Forced Induction Another electric motor forced induction...

Discussion in 'Powertrain' started by statik, Mar 22, 2005.

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    statik New Member

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    fastrolla96 speedbumps..yum

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    Like other electic superchargers, I don't think thats any better especially when it only 250 cfm. I've seen others go to 500cfms if not more. I can't say they don't work though cuase Turismo was able to beat my car using one and before I always beat him. Still I'll rather spend my 150 or more on something that has a chance on coming apart and being sucked up into the intake manifold.
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    superflyrolla 93corolladx

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    But it has to work, the motor mount even looks like a turbo!
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    Laz Z Kay "n00B, be kind"

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    Nothing can beat the tornado supercharger. lol
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    I can beat it.

    With a hammer before I throw it in the trash can!
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    hellapinoy 2000 Celica GTS

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    does that actually work? the concept is pretty cool though...
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    you can give me $125, i'll kick you in the balls and we'll call it a day
    trust me, it won't do anything but make noise
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    stage 1? i want stage 2! hehehehe
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    Bulletproofswordsman JDM Oroku-Saki

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    i wonder how many people so far have these things
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    SystemError Boosted

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    Probably the same people that have intercooler effect kits, turbo noise makers, and fake BOV's.
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    Cuztomrollaz98 MAD VLAD!

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    that's kinda funny, I bet if I get some TRD stickers I'll be able to get WAY more HP outta those than this P.O.P lol which stands for Piece Of Poop or Piece Of Plastic lol which ever one
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    Bulletproofswordsman JDM Oroku-Saki

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    i read somewhere one of these actually worked, for like 3hop or sumthin like that
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    Yeah. There is alot of baised opinions out there. I can see why someone would hate. But I like to deal with facts. I still haven't made up my mind about these. Yes, if it did add some gains, it's not right to call it a turbo. I've read some things on the internet that say some of these actually produce gains of 10hp. There are alot of haters out there on message boards who just like to make fun of "newbs" who post Q's asking about these things. Cubic Feet per Minute = CFM, some of these blowers do 1000 CFM. It moves 1000 cubic feet of air per minute. What makes HP is PSI, pounds per square inch. The blower need to actually compress the air. It can be a 1200 CFM blower under the conditions it's made for. Which are typically low pressure air ventilation. It will actually move 1000 cfm of air. But on an intake, under pressure it's not going to have the torque to push the air into the engine at a high pressure. Most people I've seen talk about these on message boards are pretty ignorant and opinionated. There is a possiblity that they do produce some small amount of pressure, which could increase HP. Everyone knows how to make fun of these things. They've got the vocabulary for it. "Bilge pump, hairdryer, leaf blower, etc." But I think the point is being missed, between the people making auctions and trying to sell these with false claims and ignorant people on the internet just looking for things to make fun of. There could be a realistic, practical use for this idea.

    The typical hardcore electric turbo basher will totally crap on anyone who is seriously questioning the viability of one. Then they will move on to, "well, Thomas Knight makes these, which are the only ones that really work, but it's not worth it." Which I believe is a sorry answer. Knight electric turbos DON'T need to spool up! It's different. It may be practical in some respects. Basically it's just a standard turbo with an electric motor to move the air, rather than the exhaust. They are fairly expensive, and by the time you're done with a full install, you may have been better off with a real turbo.

    I'm still out on the subject, I haven't made my mind up either way. I will say there are alot of over hyped, phony companies and ebay auctioneers selling worthless overpriced crap.

    I will tell you the only way to know for sure is to try it with the intention to make it work at the same time being objective. I've not seen any REAL objective tests done on these. It's usually done by someone in the business of selling them, or it's a customer testimonial which is worthless to me because it could easily be an idiot or faked.

    Really, not all of these electric blower motors are alike, some may work better than others!

    If I have the resources I will probably search for a high powered motor, and buy one from an ELECTRICAL SUPPLY company, for about 1/2 the cost as any internet or ebay auction. I would try it out. Hook it up to WOT position. Unlike turbos these wouldn't vary the output with corresponding engine RPMs. Also, the fan inside these would probably slow down the air intake when it's not in use. I would want to get a motor with a free moving blade or make some kind of bypass for it.

    Anyways...
    It's not just a simple answer, because of alot of bad or misleading information out there in the internet.

    If anyone has some experience or well thought researched opinions, your welcome to comment!
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    Barnacules 100101101011011

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    This is a total BS scam. All of the motors sold on eBay as electric superchargers are in-fact electric Leaf Blower motors. Some of the motors are even from corded units that state in the auctions that they require a DC inverter to make them work. Its all crap. Also note that the squirrel cage type fan in these units is usually plastic which means if you hit a bump real hard or jar the unit and that thing brakes your motor is going to get a healthy injection of plastic components and go Ka-Boom. Will you gain performance with one of these???? Probably not! The reason I say this is because most hi-speed electric motors that produce any kind of torque under a load use 1000+ watt's of electricity. To pull that kind of load from your cars alternator is going produce far more drag on the motor then it will create. The only way this thing would give you any kind of boost is if you ran it off an isolated second battery to used it like NoS and even then I highly doubt it would give you enough boost to even compensate for the extra weight of the 2nd battery. Anyways thats my 2 cents :)
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    Barnacules 100101101011011

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    http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=876348

    $26 and you got yourself a electric super charger that is 7 amp instead of 4.3 and 280CFM instead of 250CFM. Hell yeah! Walmart really does have the best prices. Its funny too, I was researching these superchargers a while back and a guy was actually selling a motor that was tractor green (Who the hell would buy engine components that are john deer green). I sent him mail asking i the motor was from a leaf blower and he came back and said "It doesn't matter where the motor came from its an electric supercharger now" I was like WTF. This has been a scam that is growing in popularity day by day for sure. LAME!
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    I've seen dynoed results from different "electric superchargers" all over the internet. I remember the tornado gaining like 2hp at low rpm but at high rpm it just blocked airflow and they ended up losing 15hp. I also saw one where they hooked up a leaf blower motor and no figures changed. Either way I have to say don't waste your money.
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    You guys don't have to believe me, but it actually works. I still think its a waste of money cause of the chance of it breaking apart and getting sucked into the motor. It really doesn't work in low end speed. Thats I think cause when me and Turismo race it didnt make a difference on street. He has it by the way and I always beat him at the end of the race. Well we did a highway run and I got ahead of him then he started pulling on me and passed me. He beat me with just that and exhaust. IMO it works but only on high end I presume, but it doesn't give much power as they say it does. Its only as good as adding an intake or something.

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