News Guns allowed on college campuses?

I think they have conducted numerous studies in states where guns are not legal and found that crime rate does fall... based on that i say no guns. If i stumble upon one of these studies i will link.

I guess you have a point. In Texas, citizens are allowed to carry. Criminals will think twice before pulling out a gun since they would be outnumbered.

I thought about this one for awhile. I do not think students should be able to carry on campus. I do however, believe teachers and staff should, only after many training classes and being issued a CCW license. I almost think it should be a requirement.

We are talking about adults here....not highschool kids. What is the difference between a student with an HCP and a staff member with one?

As a student I would feel more comfortable knowing that the only the teacher has a gun and is trained in a hostile situation. Just a personal opinion.

Given the professors I've had, I think I'd rather have a trained student instead. The last guy was literally about 70 years old and nutty as a squirrel turd.

I'd trust my own training and reaction to the situation over that of a professor who is completely focused on teaching a lesson. Put em in front of a blindingly bright projector in a lecture hall, and they can't even see the students they are trying to teach.

and if the intended shooter knows this, too, guess who he's taking out first? then what?

I thought about that too. I dont really have a good solution to tha honestly.

i do. they should approve the S.A.F.E. act, as well as allow students who are legally able to carry bring their weapons on campus.

info on the S.A.F.E. act can be found here

Yes and both. Mostly its because Ive never really been around guns. I feel uneasy knowing that something thats sole purpose is to injure or kill is near me and out my control. I also dont think I would feel any better if I was in control of one myself. I was just giving my own personal preference. Not trying to change the world or anyones opinions.

you might want to read through this little gem of a link: http://www.ncpa.org/pub/st/st176/ - it's a tad old, but still fits what we're trying to say.

Would this legislation allow me to rock a minigun with a 1000 round canister?

LOL An M134 minigun is hardly a simple thing to fling around. I'm sure there will be a limitation on the type of gun being carried. Most likely a handgun, although I'm not sure a FN Herstal Five Seven "cop killer" handgun would qualify (armor piercing rifle rounds also found in the FN Herstal P90). Most likely handguns that shoot ordinary parabellum type bullets.

However, if security really becomes such an issue, I'm sure campus police would increase in number and scheduled patrols or officers on duty would be stationed on campus.

I hope one day, many students will come to school with guns and one student will get mad at another student and point there gun at that student....and then another student pulls out his gun and starts pointing it at the shooter....and another student pulls out his gun and starts pointing at the shooter....and then the shooter has the guts to shoot the gun-less student...and then all the students pointing at the shooter shoots the shooter point blank and dies at the spot. Well, can't help it since students will soon have the rights to carry there guns.

BTW, students without a gun license can also get guns from parents or friends. Just because you don't have a license doesn't mean you can't carry one or use one.

That sounds like the scene from Faceoff. LOL

You mean carrying illegally.

I can see the future! Many people will get sued if they do not die!

Very informative and interesting read. Which group exactly is against civilians bearing arms?

supporters of the Brady Bill and similar bills.

opinionated, uneducated, unwilling to actually debate...moron. GTFO, dude. at least the rest of us can have a civil conversation without saying ZOMG EVERYONE'S GONNA DIE.

you remind me of chicken little. stop. no one here is listening to fanatical ravings, other than to roll our eyes at you.

I think a person will think twice about pulling a gun on someone knowing a good amount of people on campus carry a concealed weapon. which is a reason why the crime rate isn't bad in parts of the country where almost everyone carries a gun on them.

correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to have a CCW license you have to have some type of training with firearms? or does that vary by state?

Can't help it if you can't understand. I'm sorry if you weren't born with an imaginary head. Some of us understood what I said.

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Saying that I'm uneducated, look at you who can't capitalize your letters. I hope you failed English because you don't know how to capitalize your letters.

I'll just laugh when there's another shooting spree. All because you guys here make me laugh. You guys still don't see the point. Whatever, I'm out of here.

it's not an inability to use capital letters (though people who've lost the debate DO tend to pick on arbitrary things...), it's a refusal to use them unless i actually mention proper nouns.

anyhoo, back to the point - which YOU have been missing, despite being slapped in the face with facts. you fail at debate.

please, leave...don't bother to come back to this thread until you can actually sustain a proper debate. don't let the door hit you in the posterior on your flouncy way out.

Typical ignorant American trash. Just like 90% of America's population. It's no wonder other countries don't take us seriously.

I do remember CCW's saving lives in California. A vice principal held off an armed student with a pistol with a pistol of his own until police arrived and reduced casualties.

Nobody understands what you say. First and foremost the above sentence.

Vortex has a point. If there is a no weapon policy on campus... why are there shootings on campus?

...cuz the nutjobs that feel like shooting others aren't going to give a sh!t about the policy or laws.

Might as well arm the rest of the population who aren't insane.

Couple insane people v. a hundred sane. Who wins that fight.

Exactly. And why, please tell.., would you not want legally armed individuals on campus, with the ability to stop said aforementioned individual and avoid unnecessary loss of life?

5.7x28mm is hardly a rifle round...also, due to its size, that handgun is not the best option for concealed carry.