News Something that happened locally...

Something that happened locally...

...has really pissed me off. At a local motorcycle dealership a 17 year old boy was looking at purchasing a bike. (In TN there is no law concerning age and buying a bike btw) He'd been in and called on the phone numerous times and finally came in this week about it. Well, he came in shooting. He killed one of the salesmen and critically wounded one of the ladies that works up there. He then took off down the highway and lost control when(it is believed) he mistook squad cars leaving a shift change at the sheriff's substation out there as them coming after him. He was thrown from the car and died on impact.

Read more on it here:
http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/new...ntent_id=40e82bc8-d99b-499a-b53e-06bd8d436844 Note the victims say everything was calm before he decided to shoot(the shop has hardcore video surveillance...installed after a rash of smash and grab breakins that can prove any claims)


Now they are saying that it may have been related to a chop shop bust where some parts stolen from the same dealership earlier were found:
http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6590081

But what pisses me off more than that are the MySpace comments being left on this kid's page. He used to have Folk Nation(a common affiliation in the rural areas around here) wallpaper up on his page, but someone took it off sometime this morning. His friends and family say he was a good boy, never in any trouble, and he had to be provoked at the shop. If that's the case, why was he charged with Theft last March?? Holy shit people! He killed one in cold blood and tried to kill another!

Here's his page:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=122123407

I wish I could find the footage of the interviews with the shooter's family and friends. That alone is enough to make you want to choke someone.

So much senseless violence in kids these days.

Okay ... so I don't really have any major intentions to make this about race because any white guy could do this or whatever...but think about it. Tons of people don't like blacks...correct? So then why do they keep doing stupid shit to make people hate them and think they're ignorant? Seriously ... it wouldn't be about race if you all would get your head out of your asses. Whites, Asians, whomever...stop the violence. I understand that things happen for a reason but it's like ... some things can be stopped. And ignorance could quite possibly be one of them. Ignorance is an absent of knowledge. So whatever...that's all I have to say about it.

yeah i just do the traditional ass whooping...

The store video came out yesterday. It shows Buddy, the guy who was killed, joking and even patting the kid on the back while they wait for the kid's friend who was supposedly on the way with the trailer to take the bike away. They showed everything up to the point the gun came out. There was no provocation. Everyone was in good spirits until the kid opened fire. The first bullet passed through Buddy's body and hit Cindy in the arm, shattering the bone and cutting an artery. She ran to the back of the store and the kid stood over Buddy, still alive at this point, and shot him twice more. That was on the tape but they aren't going to release it for obvious reasons.


Provocation my ass. It's just a clear example of folks not willing to except the fact their family member did something very wrong. A classic case of "It's always someone else's fault"

dumbass

No sympathy on my end. Once again, the problem is the parents. Where did he get the gun and how come family members did not know about it? Sure blame it on society, tv, and the media but upbringing is the parent's sole responsibility. They should hold the parents responsible as well. Maybe that will teach parents to watch their kids more closely. Its history repeating itself over and over again.

+1

I'm just glad the dude died. I hope he was in a shitload of pain for atleast a few minutes before dying so he could experience what he inflicted on others. Anyways, it sucks this is the first thing I read returning after a few months hehe

Then the kid himself is to blame? Or maybe its society? In the end its the parents or a role model that has the greatest impact oh a child's direction in life. Its just my 2 cents.

Nah, parents are the greatest roll model during the younger years. In the latest years kids start taking on external role models in the world that the parents dont even know about. And also the guy might have been on drugs or have used drugs and had his whole realtiy screwed out of wack.

Then its all due to the environment you live in. However some people can't help where they have to live.

Funny thing about this kid is that he lives out in the country, in a small farming community. Actually, it's quite close to where many of the city residents are moving to get away from crime.

A lot of this has to do with how folks are raising their kids these days. There's a huge "hands off" approach. You see the younger ones running wild in any big box store...and the older ones running wild in the streets. Both throw temper tantrums when they don't get what they want, the older ones just use weapons now. There's no discipline anymore nor is there any respect. These kids grow up knowing the worst they'll face for early wrongdoings is a week without TV or 20 minutes sitting in a corner. That same attitude spills over into their teen years when they're too old and out of control for their parents to handle due to years of scarcely effective or no discipline at all. They enter mass society(outside of their community bubble) ill prepared for function with rational adults. When they don't get what they want they react much in the same way they did as a toddler as it was effective then to get their way and they were never taught any different.

Beware guys, there's a whole generation of kids coming up that have been "raised" in this manner. Socially inept without a clear idea of of the consequences(true punishment) of their actions. When something happens, their friends and family can't wrap their minds around it rationally. They were raised the same way too. Hell, they are our future. God help us all.

I agree - this "spare the rod, spoil the child" approach is total BS. Now in many circles, spanking is considered child abuse - illegal in some countries, frown upon in many places here.

If I got out of line with my folks - you better believe that they would have whupped my ass ASAP. I remember times when I got spanked so badly, I couldn't sit down for a day or so. With my own child, if he gets a little out of line, I make sure I real his ass back in. So please parents - spank that child .

Maybe the parents weren't to blame, the kid was nearly a legal adult and at that age capable of making rational decisions, however the fact that the family claims he was a good kid and never in any trouble does perhaps portray some ignorance to the issues in the kids life that perhaps could have been avoided if they had a more hands on relationship with the child. Or maybe it was just the generic line you'd expect them to say about the kid. I don't know.

I grew up in the ghetto with nothing but violence around me and last I checked I didn't kill anyone, I should probably think back really hard just to be sure

I need to carry offduty more often...

That's the way it goes...we recently had a local officer murdered - shot in the back, then repeatedly run over. "He was a good kid, had a good future", says the (now deceased - kudos to a former Marine who happened to arrive) murderer's friends/family/whatever. BS. Seems to be a trend with people..

Man it blows my mind...

The fact that its happening more and more often does not make it any easier for me read however.

The kid is to blame, soley. Tv, environment, parents, sorry but that is all BS. In the end, its all up to him and the choices he made, period. People from bad backgrounds can be just fine, with one or no parents, or horrible parents. Its an excuse. Granted there is influence everywhere and the influence is nto good, but people should be strong enough to resist it. Period.

That kid, was evil. Sorry not other way to put it, he was not troubled or tormented or provoked etc, he was evil. To turn around and place a gun in a man's view, look them in the eyes and take their life knowing they did nothing to warrant that...

Its due to so many factors that everyone is right in a way. But yes, it is the individual who is responsible for his own actions. he must decide what is right and wrong for himself and act on it.