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News Here we go again with the black/white issue...

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    DaCubanSkillz Active Member

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    Here we go again with the black/white issue...

    As some of you know. Barba from American Idol had some racy pics show up on the net. Some that you can even see her nipples. Others show her drinking although she's not 21.

    You might also remember Frenchie. She was booted off American Idol for taking lingerie shots. People are now saying that the reason Frenchie got booted was because she's black. And Barba is only staying because she is white.

    Click here for the story

    Once again, they have to jump on something..so why not the black and white issue. STUPID!

    Now, the one thing I will agree with is that its not fair that they kicked Frenchie off, but kept Barba. I saw the pics that Frenchie took and the ones that Barba took and they seem the same to me. If producers are going to kick one contestant off for racy pics, then they should do the same with Barba. If they plan to keep Barba, then I think Frenchie is owed an apology of some sorts.

    Frenchie definately had more potential then Barba cause Barba can't sing for shit. But thats just my opinion. I just don't get why it always has to be a black and white issue. What if Frenchie was white? They would of had to jump on the fact that it wasn't fair. So why not start it off in that sense...not bring race into it.

    EDIT: I just read on nbc4.com that Frenchie doesn't think its a black/white issue. Its some activists in Cali who think she was booted because she was black. They are the ones that are flippin the script.
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    TurismoDreamin ΓΡΗΓΟΡΟΣ ΟΔΗΓΟΣ

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    This is totally unfair. When they kicked Frenchie off, honestly, my immediate thoughts were because "she's black", but jokingly. But seriously, its just completely unfair and yes, ive seen both sets of photos and if anything, both should be approached similarly. Besides Antonella wont make it all the way through, lol...
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    Cuztomrollaz98 MAD VLAD!

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    I don't watch American Idol or anything but if that was the case then that's pretty messed up.
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    turbo4age Love to Hate me

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    its silly of people to think that FOX of all channels would want to get wrapped up in a race issue. the only people that are up in arms are racist themselves.
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    I think the lingerie shots were for money making purposes....and the pics of the Antonella were private pictures that were leaked without her knowledge.

    To me, there is a difference.

    Like the cheerleader that had private pics leaked, and then got kicked out of school for them. Totally unjustified.

    Frenchie herself says that she is glad that the producers are allowing Antonella to continue on the show.....she says that maybe the producers have learned from their mistakes.

    I get SOOOOO sick of blacks pulling the fucking race card. Annoys the fuck outta me.
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    DaCubanSkillz Active Member

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    Frenchie also believes that an apology to her from the producers of the show would be a great start.

    The point still remains that there are pictures out there of both contestants (leaked or not) and one got kicked off and the other didn't. Alot of the girls on Idol are heated because alot of them feel this has turned into a popularity contest because of the pics being on the net.
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    ShallowPockets New Member

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    I thought the big girl also had an criminal record that she didn't disclose(as required by the show) that also caused her to be removed, though I could have it confused with another of the contestants. I never watch the show, I just hear little bits o' drama from the TV news programs.
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    Prodigy3006 Rubber Man

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    I get so sick of whites who consistently complain about blacks pulling the race card. it annoys the fuck outta me.
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    DaCubanSkillz Active Member

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    I think that was someone else. There were a few of them who didn't disclose prior criminal records..lol.
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    turbo4age Love to Hate me

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    and im sick of unoriginal, baseless, tasteless comments from anyone...
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    I get all those no talent assclowns confused. I mean hell, they've been through the same talent pool something like 6 times already, right? If they didn't want them the first time, why do they take them the 5th or 6th time?

    These folks on American Idol are attention whores anyway. Why expect anything less than half nude pics and racist accusations? They get them what they want. Another 15 minutes of fame, TV airtime, name in the paper....attention to feed the need of an attention whore.
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    Funny. If blacks stop pulling the race card, we wont be complaining about them pulling the race card.
    It happens quite often. I could easily list a myriad of events off the top of my head from the last few months where blacks have pulled the race card.
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    Prodigy3006 Rubber Man

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    I don't know why you'd quote me, because my comment was anything but.
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    I'm so sick about that race card....PERIOD!
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    As I could list off a myriad of events off the top of my head where whites have brought up isolated incidents where blacks have pulled the race card and complained insistently about it. The thing is, when whites pull the race card, and they do, I don't consistently bring up every isolated instance. I'm not saying pulling the race card is warranted, most the time it's not, but this, what I being done in this forum, is a consistent bashing on blacks complaining about race, slave reparations, the white man holding them down, and other things. Yes, it is not a necessary thing to do, and is ignoble, but it is also an isolated incident: the same as it is when I read or experience whites partake in ignoble, unnecessary acts of racism or pullings of the race card immorally. Yet, in these instances I have not created or seen created 6 or more threads discussing these occurences in the past 2 months.
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    All I have to say is.....sparkling wiggles, that is all.:blah:
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    Its not a coincidence that these threads are stemming from news stories that are hitting front pages around the country.

    Lets also not forget that the person that started this thread is neither white or black...and lets not forget that the last black/white thread was started by Ninety Four.......and not a white person bringing the subject up.
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    fawking racist people...damn them to hell
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    i qouted you directly because your "rebuttle" , if i can call it that, was a weak attempt at mocking a previous comment. it was, in any guise, an un thoughtout ignorant retort. we know youre black, and are clearly defensive seeing as how your initial reply has nothing to do with the topic and only defends a close minded and piss poor way of thinking.

    maybe if black and mexican people werent givin the free race card by a bullshit PC america then white people would stop complaining about it. not to mention WE JUST HAPPEN to be white... youre going to tell me in a right mind that the ignorant overuse and labeling of the word racist isnt getting on even your nerves?!
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    Actually it was sarcastic and pointed at E: he responded to it just fine. You seem to be trying to sound smart, but I really don't see you as someone worthy to respond to because you don't make sense (even grammatically, although i'm not great either) and your views, to me, are usually ignorant and, eventually, filled with name calling. Oh, this is not true you say? Well, what I'm referring to is your past and how you take everything to the next level with your over-the-top statements. You didn't really do it that much this time, but your statements are still unimpressive. I assure you, turbo4age, I don't have a piss poor way of thinking, and I'm sure everyone on this site will agree that I am quite open-minded. At the same time I do take offense to the tone you come at me with, and the tone you're emotion to blacks seems to convey (from previous threads). I wouldn't say I'm one of those 'defensive for no reason, blame everything on the white man' blacks,though. Maybe I do have something to learn? Are you really sure you can coin my race so easily? I'm sure you cannot. Completely sure.
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    i could sleep easy only knowing that your post is highly contradictory to your "agenda". if you think im unintelligent and dont deserve a reply, then dont reply and make yourself look silly. and lets not forget my statement "piss poor way of thinking" was aimed solely at the racists in question... do you feel that connected to them that you take my statement personally? are you, in fact, a racist too?

    try to belittle me all you want, the only thing its acoomplishing (on your end) is excessive wear of your keyboard. it doesnt affect me because i deal with people like you every day of my life. the chip on your shoulder and your high and mighty nature looks to me that you feel youve won a battle... where none is being waged. congratualation for entertaining my OPINIONS and letting it affect you personally enough that you could assume "a tone" that im "coming at you" with... :confused: ... over the internet. wow


    and to help you out...
    "I wouldn't say I'm one of those 'defensive for no reason, blame everything on the white man' blacks,though. Maybe I do have something to learn?"
    "Are you really sure you can coin my race so easily? I'm sure you cannot. Completely sure"

    yeah, im really sure... you just proved my original statement correct.

    and again, congratulations on saying a lot and accomplishing nothing. next time you want to pour your heart out to me do it in a PM and dont muck up a thread thats not about me with you your personal opinions of me.
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    No way, thats no fun! This is the debate forum for a reason!

    Lets make love, not war.

    There are many stubborn, strong willled individuals on this board. It makes things interesting.

    I can say that Im sick of blacks pulling the race card, and feel no regret saying that. Maybe its because I work in the news industry and run across stories like this one on a daily basis.

    American Idol.......the NYPD Shooting......the Gangta Parties......Rep McKinney....etc etc etc. Its going to happen until the end of time....
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    Prodigy3006 Rubber Man

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    lol, kid, pouring out my heart? hardly. It was simply a reply. You didn't coin my race correctly. Although I didn't feel you deserve a reply, being quoted at with a paragraph long thing that you said almost binds me to respond.


    yea, and the only place i see it repeatedly discussed is on this board. coincidence, maybe. I only get on two forums.

    true on the ninety four and dacubanskillz bit. as for 'hitting front pages,' you would know more as you work in a newsroom, but it makes no news around here in Huntsville.
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    You have a tendency to bring out the "kid" remark in your rebuttals.....


    Im on many boards, and the exact same threads hit those boards as well.


    You dont get CNN in Huntsville?:confused:
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    Prodigy3006 Rubber Man

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    Yea, we get CNN in Huntsville, but from what I've seen, none of these stories have been real 'front page headlines.'

    what do you mean e?
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    All have been major stories covered by CNN, MSNBC, AP, etc.


    You refer to people as kid.....is that a southern thing?
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    turbo4age Love to Hate me

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    pretty sure hes just trying to be condescending...
    im pretty sure his bitterness is more a southern thing than his ignorance though
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    Ya think? lol
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    turbo4age Love to Hate me

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    on occasion haha
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    To say I'm from the South would be insanely inaccurate

    you read way too much into it. but i can't control your sensitivity to every thing i say, because a lot of it was negative comments pointed at your 'maturity'. the kid part wasn't.

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