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What are your thoughts on "reverse" staggered setup?

Discussion in 'Stop, Drop & Roll' started by yakuza13, Oct 23, 2006.

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    yakuza13 New Member

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    What are your thoughts on "reverse" staggered setup?

    It's commonly done in Japan on FWD cars. Know anyone running a "reverse" staggered setup? I found this Japanese AE110 running this setup:

    Front: 17x9" wide (+26) w/ 215/40
    Rear: 17x8" wide (+26) w/ 205/40


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    I am considering:

    Front: 15x8" (+27) w/205/50
    Rear: 15x7.5" (+27) w/ 195/50
    yakuza13, Oct 23, 2006
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    James Bullshit Police

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    i dunno if that's reverse staggered.

    staggered just means giving your drive wheels wider tires than non drive wheels.

    so staggered for FWD maybe..

    the effect that would have on a fwd car is reduce understeer. you might want to PM alby13 if he doesn't reply here, i know he was running staggered on his corolla.
    James, Oct 23, 2006
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    cgreen38 Common sense, p

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    Technically, it's just a staggered setup, but in most popular thought, "staggered" means the rear wheels are wider on a RWD car. Therefore, FWD cars would use a "reverse staggered" setup. I'm fine with just using 16x7 all around. :)
    cgreen38, Oct 23, 2006
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    DeebsTundra Big Tires :)

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    The biggest downside to staggering your wheel sizes is not being able to rotate them later.

    While this may not be true with some cars, the reasoning behind this was when guys would rip out the rear end to make room for 12 inch wide tires in the rear (Corvettes, Camaro's, Trans-Am's, etc) and run an 8 inch up front. ...if you are running such a small size difference you may be able to rotate your rims and tires.

    ...but in my own personal opinion, if the sizes are going to be that close, you might as well just run a 205 front and rear with the same size rim.
    DeebsTundra, Oct 23, 2006
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    Barnacules 100101101011011

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    That setup is going to p0wn your rubber pretty fast :D
    Barnacules, Oct 23, 2006
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    it would make more sense to just keep it all the same. or as they said get different ratios. or even better run softer tires up front, get a road hazard warranty, and when they wear out in 15k just slash them and get new ones for free. then there's no sense in rotating them. its not ethical but works great
    igorien2k, Oct 23, 2006
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    That kind of setup is very common among FWD tuners in Japan and most of asia. They rely on varying the contact patch (tire width) between the front and rear wheels and utalizing high spring rates to control under/oversteer characteristics. It is common to see ITR's with 225F 195R.

    Here in America we seem to rely more on sway bar diameters and adjustable sway bars to do the same thing.

    Whichever is better depends on who you talk to, different tuners have different ways of doing things. But I have tried igorien2k's suggestion, I ran 195mm RT215 up from and 185mm Ziex512 in rear in a autoX once.. my rear was sliding all over the place =( I wouldn't recommend it. Best to stick to the same compound rubber all around.
    JspeXAE102, Oct 24, 2006
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    ALL corollas built by toyota from 93 and up have the front end exactly one inch wider in the front than in the back. read the specs Toyota has kept the front spaced apart more than the back due to handling.
    01rollas, Oct 24, 2006
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