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Engine Flywheel

Discussion in 'Powertrain' started by oppositesleeper, Sep 23, 2006.

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    oppositesleeper New Member

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    Flywheel

    Well the 3rd gear in my tranny is out and sadly has been out for some time and im finally gonna save up to get it fixed...Because honestly what would be the point of putting a turbo on a car with no 3rd gear? Here's my question. When i have the tranny apart i'm going to put in an exedy stage1 clutch and ive been looking online for other things i can do to my transmission and i see the old Flywheel. at about 500 bucks for any ive seen i'm not quite sure what they do and if they are worth the hefty price. Would someone like to fill me in?

    Because i'm thinkin Tokyo Extreme Racer 0 style where i put in the upgraded flywheel as mod #1 and just start whoopin ass on that Tokyo highway but i'm sure that cant be the case.. ....sadly
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    I have a Fidanza 8.5lb Aluminum Flywheel and after installing it my car rev's like a dirt bike :D I love it.
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    wowow..
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    ????
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    so anyone care to tell oppositesleeper and i, is it worth getting a flywheel?

    what do you guys recommend to get, barnacules, where did you get your clutch, and flywheel at, what kind of clutch do you have, and how much is it usually to take to someone to install, i heard it was like a 3 hour job or more.
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    8.5lb is that too light and does it rev fast?.
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    i'm either suprised that no one really knows to much about flywheels or isnt wanting to answer.
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    Barnacules 100101101011011

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    I got my clutch and flywheel from some online site, can't remember which one. I have an ACT xTreme pressure plate (60% over stock) and a regular old organic street disc. It takes a whole day to install unless you have a fancy overhead lift and sweet tools :D

    It rev's atleast 2x as fast as with stock and I don't think it is too light, you need to get on the revs just a little when you take off for the first time but you get used to it instantly.
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    I had an ACT heavy duty pressure plate, organic disc and Fidanza aluminum flywheel (9lb) purchased from MonkeywrenchRacing in my old Corolla. It revs much, much faster...if you have the cash, go for it!
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    try gripforce clutches online and in brea cal. for your flywheel and clutch kit undoughtably the cheapest in all the land.
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    think you're wasting your time looking at flywheels. if you want one, you can sand down or drill holes in a stock one to loose a bit of weight for almost no cost. If you have the tranny open I'd invest in a Limited Slip Differential. It wont rev like crazy, but you'll get a noticable gain in traction on wet and loose surfaces. and if you get a turbo it's a must anyway.
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    I wouldn't feel safe sanding or drilling my own flywheel... I don't like the idea of metal chunks in my legs and torso if it breaks
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    I'd think you would want it perfectly balanced anyway...which would be difficult to do yourself.

    Corollasbest: You're not going to lose four pounds by sanding or drilling holes..unless you're drilling a lot of holes.
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    but balancing a flywheel at a machine shop is what, shop minimum at like $20-30 depending on the shop? lol

    in any case, most people tend to think about this wrong..... it isn't all about how light or heavy a flywheel is......

    if i were in your shoes, i would be looking at alternate stock or BILLET STEEL flywheels (aftermarket.... tend to be a little more expensive, however).

    1) alternat stock flywheel:
    again, it isn't all about weight...... for the best example, toyota put 3 varying flywheels in the 4age/4agze engines (in the US.... 4 if you count JDM motors)... all with varying weights and sizes.... the 200mm flywheel is the HEAVIEST, the 212mm is in the middle for weight, and the lightest is the 4agze's 220mm..... -but- the 200mm is the best stock-for stock in terms of performance.... though it's heavier, it has less outer diameter (and less mass farther out to rotate).... so, what i'm trying to say is that when you're looking at flywheels you should look at size first, not weight....

    2) Billet Steel....
    I say this for a reason.... and many go against what I say, but i have PERSONALLY got stuck with someone else's car that had problems with an aluminum flywheel (fidanza).... and there are other issues (which i will deal with) with aluminum flywheels as well....

    a) pressure plate bolts are generally steel... the metal expansion rates (when heated/cooled) are different between aluminum and steel..... though using a threadlocker will help, there is no guarantee that the steel bolts won't back themselves out of the aluminum flywheel (this is what i have seen in person.... PP bolts backed out while on the freeway, and this was about a year after he had put in the flywheel, and the owner of the car lost complete clutch usage...)

    b) again with the expansion rates..... the flywheel surfaces and starter ring gears of aluminum flywheels (like fidanzas) are steel..... the flywheel surface (mating surface to the PP) is bolted in with lots of steel bolts.... these too could back out, but there's less chance since there isn't pressure against the bolts (like PP bolts). However, it is very common (and had friends whom have had this happen) in fidanza wheels for the pressed-on starter ring gear to actuall pop off the flywheel...... making it unable to start the car (and relatively dangerous to even have the car running)


    so, since i deal with 4age cars.... i tend to lean towards stock (steel) 200mm flywheels when i have the option to switch.... it allows the engines to rev quicker and you don't lose the driveability you sometimes do with very light flywheels..... i tend to think that it's better to spend the money on something more logical (especially for street driven cars)
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    Fidanza is good but if you have a heavy duty torque starter it will last but not for too long.
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    where can you get a good lsd?
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    Quaife`, but its a pain in the ass to install if your not well knowledge.
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    trd japan also make a good one. expect to spend 750-1100 for a good one and probably a couple hundred more to have a reputable shop to put in since it requires special tools and very accurate measurements to overhaul a tranny... however I've seen guys do it on their kitchen floor. I wish I put one in when I did my swap but I didnt have enough pocket change.

    I'm with toyotaspeed90 about aluminum flywheels, chromemoly is a good alternative but once again youre spending 350-400 on one. My OEM flywheel ran me $40 from kragen.
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    yep i paid 700 for mine at a local performance shop which is why i said quaife`, but the install i did myself and for my first mod at my tranny myself it was a pain in the ass, but now i can do it very easily since i went to vocational school.

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