man people are just......

Mayur · Jun 18, 2006

oppositesleeper said: ↑

i think im gonna take out my 82 oldsmobile delta 88 and go drift in that...show up all these kids at the movie theatre parking lot

LMAO. Your drifting in the parking lot and in the middle of a drift, the old rustbucket dies out on you :snap:

AE102 · Jun 18, 2006

Barnacules said: ↑

How can you drift with AWD?

its possible.

http://www.drifting.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6479

Barnacules · Jun 18, 2006

AE102 said: ↑

its possible.
http://www.drifting.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6479

Yeah, but it still looks like it takes a lot more skill to do it If I was going to drift I would go for a RWD setup unless I was in the WRC.

e_andree · Jun 20, 2006

How does this movie "demean" the culture?

Ellada · Jun 20, 2006

the only way you can "drift" in a fwd car is if you are going backwards!

for those that claim that they drifted in a fwd: did the rear wheels spin while taking the corner? NO?! OK then, you didnt drift, you slid the car sideways.

thats just stupid to even claim that you drifted in a fwd.

e_andree · Jun 20, 2006

Ellada said: ↑

the only way you can "drift" in a fwd car is if you are going backwards!
for those that claim that they drifted in a fwd: did the rear wheels spin while taking the corner? NO?! OK then, you didnt drift, you slid the car sideways.
thats just stupid to even claim that you drifted in a fwd.

Youre going to lose that battle.......so e-brake drifting and shift lock drifiting arent actually drifting? What about left foot braking?

vortex · Jun 20, 2006

Ellada said: ↑

the only way you can "drift" in a fwd car is if you are going backwards!
for those that claim that they drifted in a fwd: did the rear wheels spin while taking the corner? NO?! OK then, you didnt drift, you slid the car sideways.
thats just stupid to even claim that you drifted in a fwd.

good morning dumb and ignorant, how's your morning going? hope it was good and you had a light breakfast because you're about to eat your lunch early.

OK, first and foremost, the definition of drifting:

When the rear wheels are slipping at a greater angle than the front wheels causing the car to "drift" or "oversteer". During such a manuever the rear end of the car appears to chase the front end around a turn, the driver utilizes both front tires and the rear tires to control the actual direction of the car. The goal here is for the driver to achieve opposite lock and use the throttle to fine tune the car's angle and direction.

Now... while its preferable to utilize a rear wheel drive car due to the fact that it aides in increasing the rear wheel slip angle it is not necessarily the ONLY way to do it. As long as you can achieve the goal of using the cars resources to gain the optimum angle and speed you are DRIFTING, plain and simple.

So before you jump on the all mighty soap box of "i know it all" think about what you say before you pull down your pants in front of everyone, because when you do someone might just come along and put their foot up your ass.

DeebsTundra · Jun 20, 2006

:snap:

ToyRolla · Jun 20, 2006

hookedup96rolla said: ↑

my hope is that it takes attn away from streetracing and cops post on curvy roads n shit more than the striahgts.,

Bite your tongue!

vortex · Jun 20, 2006

ToyRolla said: ↑

Bite your tongue!

haha well said

Cuztomrollaz98 · Jun 20, 2006

vortex said: ↑

good morning dumb and ignorant, how's your morning going? hope it was good and you had a light breakfast because you're about to eat your lunch early.
OK, first and foremost, the definition of drifting:
When the rear wheels are slipping at a greater angle than the front wheels causing the car to "drift" or "oversteer". During such a manuever the rear end of the car appears to chase the front end around a turn, the driver utilizes both front tires and the rear tires to control the actual direction of the car. The goal here is for the driver to achieve opposite lock and use the throttle to fine tune the car's angle and direction.
Now... while its preferable to utilize a rear wheel drive car due to the fact that it aides in increasing the rear wheel slip angle it is not necessarily the ONLY way to do it. As long as you can achieve the goal of using the cars resources to gain the optimum angle and speed you are DRIFTING, plain and simple.
So before you jump on the all mighty soap box of "i know it all" think about what you say before you pull down your pants in front of everyone, because when you do someone might just come along and put their foot up your ass.

:Ewned: AMEN!

Barnacules · Jun 20, 2006

vortex said: ↑

good morning dumb and ignorant, how's your morning going? hope it was good and you had a light breakfast because you're about to eat your lunch early.
OK, first and foremost, the definition of drifting:
When the rear wheels are slipping at a greater angle than the front wheels causing the car to "drift" or "oversteer". During such a manuever the rear end of the car appears to chase the front end around a turn, the driver utilizes both front tires and the rear tires to control the actual direction of the car. The goal here is for the driver to achieve opposite lock and use the throttle to fine tune the car's angle and direction.
Now... while its preferable to utilize a rear wheel drive car due to the fact that it aides in increasing the rear wheel slip angle it is not necessarily the ONLY way to do it. As long as you can achieve the goal of using the cars resources to gain the optimum angle and speed you are DRIFTING, plain and simple.
So before you jump on the all mighty soap box of "i know it all" think about what you say before you pull down your pants in front of everyone, because when you do someone might just come along and put their foot up your ass.

:king:

Ellada said: ↑

the only way you can "drift" in a fwd car is if you are going backwards!
for those that claim that they drifted in a fwd: did the rear wheels spin while taking the corner? NO?! OK then, you didnt drift, you slid the car sideways.
thats just stupid to even claim that you drifted in a fwd.

:Own3d:

Ellada · Jun 21, 2006

First once you plagiarize, make sure you quote where you quoted it from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drifting_(motorsport)

"Drifting refers either to a driving technique utilizing a difference in slip angle between the front and rear tires of a car, or to a sport based on the technique; this article deals primarily with the sport. When the rear wheels are slipping at a greater angle than the front wheels, the car is drifting or oversteering. The rear end of the car appears to chase the front end around a turn, the driver utilizes both front tires and the rear tires to control the actual direction of the car. More throttle induces more rear wheel slip angle and the rear of the car wants to overtake the front. The goal is for the driver to achieve opposite lock and use the throttle to fine tune the car's angle and direction."

Second, when looking at the internet to support your "theory" read the whole article:

"There is some debate over whether or not front wheel drive (FWD) vehicles can drift. By one definition, the rear wheels slipping at a greater angle than the front wheels, they are indeed able to drift. However, most consider FWD vehicles a poor choice for drifting, as the frequent use of the emergency brake slows them down and makes them harder to control. Also, since they use their front tires for both steering and power, the car loses control after a single slide, while RWD cars can drift through consecutive corners. In this way, the definition of drifting is frequently challenged to say that FWD cars cannot "drift," only oversteer."

FWD cannot drift. thats from the article you quoted from...

now do me a favor and pull your pants up 'cause i just finished...

e_andree · Jun 21, 2006

Ellada said: ↑

First once you plagiarize, make sure you quote where you quoted it from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drifting_(motorsport)
"Drifting refers either to a driving technique utilizing a difference in slip angle between the front and rear tires of a car, or to a sport based on the technique; this article deals primarily with the sport. When the rear wheels are slipping at a greater angle than the front wheels, the car is drifting or oversteering. The rear end of the car appears to chase the front end around a turn, the driver utilizes both front tires and the rear tires to control the actual direction of the car. More throttle induces more rear wheel slip angle and the rear of the car wants to overtake the front. The goal is for the driver to achieve opposite lock and use the throttle to fine tune the car's angle and direction."
Second, when looking at the internet to support your "theory" read the whole article:
"There is some debate over whether or not front wheel drive (FWD) vehicles can drift. By one definition, the rear wheels slipping at a greater angle than the front wheels, they are indeed able to drift. However, most consider FWD vehicles a poor choice for drifting, as the frequent use of the emergency brake slows them down and makes them harder to control. Also, since they use their front tires for both steering and power, the car loses control after a single slide, while RWD cars can drift through consecutive corners. In this way, the definition of drifting is frequently challenged to say that FWD cars cannot "drift," only oversteer."
FWD cannot drift. thats from the article you quoted from...
now do me a favor and pull your pants up 'cause i just finished...

Reading comprehension owns you....where does it say that FWD cannot drift? It says its debateable....and WIKEPEDIA is written and updated BY THE PEOPLE. Its not a definitive source. If I wanted to go into that article and put FWDs CAN DRIFT, I could.

Run a google search on FWD Drifting....
http://www.superstreetonline.com/howto/10115/

So, instead of just quoting from another site, how bout you try to explain to us all how FWD vehicles cant drift....

vortex · Jun 21, 2006

Ellada said: ↑

First once you plagiarize, make sure you quote where you quoted it from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drifting_(motorsport)
"Drifting refers either to a driving technique utilizing a difference in slip angle between the front and rear tires of a car, or to a sport based on the technique; this article deals primarily with the sport. When the rear wheels are slipping at a greater angle than the front wheels, the car is drifting or oversteering. The rear end of the car appears to chase the front end around a turn, the driver utilizes both front tires and the rear tires to control the actual direction of the car. More throttle induces more rear wheel slip angle and the rear of the car wants to overtake the front. The goal is for the driver to achieve opposite lock and use the throttle to fine tune the car's angle and direction."
Second, when looking at the internet to support your "theory" read the whole article:
"There is some debate over whether or not front wheel drive (FWD) vehicles can drift. By one definition, the rear wheels slipping at a greater angle than the front wheels, they are indeed able to drift. However, most consider FWD vehicles a poor choice for drifting, as the frequent use of the emergency brake slows them down and makes them harder to control. Also, since they use their front tires for both steering and power, the car loses control after a single slide, while RWD cars can drift through consecutive corners. In this way, the definition of drifting is frequently challenged to say that FWD cars cannot "drift," only oversteer."
FWD cannot drift. thats from the article you quoted from...
now do me a favor and pull your pants up 'cause i just finished...

I simply chose the wording from that site since it was broken down enough that even you could understand, but i guess I was wrong. *FOR YOUR INFORMATION*, drifting and oversteering are one in the same... the technique of oversteering is utilized by both front wheel and rear wheel drive vehicles in combination with other techniques in order to initiate a drift. I didn't quote the rest of the article due to the fact, as Eric pointed out, it is has some inaccuracies due to contextual placement. Before you go on to pick apart that single statement to try to slap someone in the face, re-read the lines you posted before just reading the last few words and assuming it makes your point to avoid inadvertantly slapping yourself in the face.

SO, next time, before you go happily typing away and boasting about your aparrent enjoyment of boning males in the back door because you think you've proved your point by posting a contradicting statement, feel free to exit stage left before you make an even bigger ass of yourself to the community.

Ellada · Jun 21, 2006

e_andree said: ↑

Reading comprehension owns you....where does it say that FWD cannot drift? It says its debateable....and WIKEPEDIA is written and updated BY THE PEOPLE. Its not a definitive source. If I wanted to go into that article and put FWDs CAN DRIFT, I could.
Run a google search on FWD Drifting....
http://www.superstreetonline.com/howto/10115/
So, instead of just quoting from another site, how bout you try to explain to us all how FWD vehicles cant drift....

Wikipedia was the article Vortex copied from..it wasnt my choice...
and i can run a google search that says FWD cannot drift.

if any of you claim that you have drifted in a fwd then i give up...

if going fast in a corner, pulling the E.B up and sliding a couple of feet, while trying rediculously to spin the front tires is considered drifting for you then so be it.

this is taken from another car forum (just to showing you i am not fighting a loosing battle

"a true DRIFT is when you lite up the rears and keep the car moving by using the throttle to control angle and speed through the turn. if its not rear wheel drive, its not a real drift. even some rear wheel drives cant do real drifts unless it has an LSD.

im sick of FF drivers crying about "we can drift too" thats BS. get over it and just learn how to grip. i had a civic EF and it was fun. FF can still have fun without pretending to drift. just dont do it with neon lights and euro tails, for the love of god."

so vortex and e_andree, you 2 both believe that a FWD can drift?
really answer me that...

and vortrex, dont try to play i am the bad guy here, cause you were the one to use negative remarks towards me, and dont try to insult my intelligence. Capisce?

Wide Slip Angle · Jun 21, 2006

*reads posts. clicks <back> button because of the overpowering amount of ownage in here*

Cuztomrollaz98 · Jun 21, 2006

Ellada some of the things I've seen Vortex do on his FWD turbo corolla you wouldn't believe so if I was you I wouldn't get too ahead of myself

Ellada · Jun 21, 2006

is vortex everyone's idol? you can't form your own opinions in here?

i am not trying to get ahead of anyone in here...just stating the obvious...

and i have done lots of crazy things in the rolla as well, but never claiming a drift in a FWD.
cause i know that if anyone else in here claimed that (drift in a FWD) everyone would just bash him and call B.S...but just because it's vortex everyone should agree?
if he claimed that he beat a cobra while on reverse that makes it credible?

why don't FWD compete in drifting competions? oh wait....hmmmmm...thats maybe cause they can't drift...is that right? or just because i claimed that, its not coming for a justifiable source...

http://vvti.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4825&highlight=drift

i always admit when i am wrong, and thats cause i have the balls to do so, but not in this case.

jtweezy · Jun 21, 2006

so who's to say whats drifting and what is not???......somebody post that link of the corolla drifting at night please...thanks.

Cuztomrollaz98 · Jun 21, 2006

I'm not saying ur not entitled to ur opinion or anything of that sort, what I'm saying is that it can be done but as I read ur posts ur practically saying that is just not possible and I beg to differ that's all. Vortex is not an idol bro but he is a guy that knows his shit 110% and knows what he says

DeebsTundra · Jun 21, 2006

Ellada said: ↑

is vortex everyone's idol? you can't form your own opinions in here?
i am not trying to get ahead of anyone in here...just stating the obvious...
and i have done lots of crazy things in the rolla as well, but never claiming a drift in a FWD.
cause i know that if anyone else in here claimed that (drift in a FWD) everyone would just bash him and call B.S...but just because it's vortex everyone should agree?
if he claimed that he beat a cobra while on reverse that makes it credible?
why don't FWD compete in drifting competions? oh wait....hmmmmm...thats maybe cause they can't drift...is that right? or just because i claimed that, its not coming for a justifiable source...
http://vvti.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4825&highlight=drift
i always admit when i am wrong, and thats cause i have the balls to do so, but not in this case.

An opinion is an opinion...but the loose definition of a drift is that the backend breaks free and slides. Give or take that's about it. You seem to be pounding into the ground the definition of RWD drifting...which uses the rear wheels to break the backend free. It's easy in RWD...you can do it without even trying. Drifting or "Breaking the back end loose" is more challenging to do correctly in FWD.

vortex · Jun 21, 2006

Ellada said: ↑

Wikipedia was the article Vortex copied from..it wasnt my choice...
and i can run a google search that says FWD cannot drift.

and as I stated, i simply used a sentence or two from the explaination posted there since it best described the point I was trying to make.

Ellada said: ↑

if any of you claim that you have drifted in a fwd then i give up...

I've done it, I have witnesses, I've even successfully chain drifted.

Ellada said: ↑

if going fast in a corner, pulling the E.B up and sliding a couple of feet, while trying rediculously to spin the front tires is considered drifting for you then so be it.
this is taken from another car forum (just to showing you i am not fighting a loosing battle
"a true DRIFT is when you lite up the rears and keep the car moving by using the throttle to control angle and speed through the turn. if its not rear wheel drive, its not a real drift. even some rear wheel drives cant do real drifts unless it has an LSD.
im sick of FF drivers crying about "we can drift too" thats BS. get over it and just learn how to grip. i had a civic EF and it was fun. FF can still have fun without pretending to drift. just dont do it with neon lights and euro tails, for the love of god."

Nice quote, but as I stated earlier...

vortex said:

while its preferable to utilize a rear wheel drive car due to the fact that it aides in increasing the rear wheel slip angle it is not necessarily the ONLY way to do it.

The official word on what drifting is from some of the people who produce and promote drifting events is the following:

The official definition of a 'drift' according to the Drift Session is, "Exceeding your tires' limits of adhesion, exhibiting a lateral slip, resulting in an oversteered condition. We'll break it down like this: 1. 'Exceeding your tires' limits of adhesion' means that there is no longer enough traction available for your tires to maintain grip with the roadway. This can be caused by numerous things including: using too much horsepower at a given point in time, too great a degree to cornering angle, too much speed carried into a corner, slippery roadway conditions, etc. 2. 'Exhibiting a lateral slip' means that your car is traveling towards a vector that is not consistent with the direction your vehicle is facing; aka your car is facing sideways, but still moving towards the direction you were previously pointed. 3. 'Resulting in an oversteered condition' is basically defined as your vehicle angle being greater than the angle of the corner negotiated. The combination of these three elements is what we will use as the basic components of a 'drift.'

Does it mention *ANYTHING* about rear wheel drive or front wheel drive here? NO!

Ellada said: ↑

so vortex and e_andree, you 2 both believe that a FWD can drift?
really answer me that...

See above quote and YES I do as it has been proven that it is not a matter for FWD or RWD it is the motion of the vehicle in a specific manuever around corners and the accomplishment of that goal.

Ellada said: ↑

and vortrex, dont try to play i am the bad guy here, cause you were the one to use negative remarks towards me, and dont try to insult my intelligence. Capisce?

That's vortex, not vortrex and i'm not playing that you're the bad guy. Yes, my first comment was perhaps over the top and a bit much to which I will apologize for the "foot up your ass" comment... but if you want to make a comment that is a representation of your "intelligence" that is made out of pure ignorance and hearsay, which I believe to be a completely true representation of your "intelligence" then I have every right to correct you just as publically as you made your own comment. It's been done to me before and I'm sure it'll be done again (*smacks Eric*) so get over it... it's the internet not the life changing experience everyone claims it is. I would throw down the comment just as quickly in a face to face conversation as I have over the internet. I don't reserve myself to be politically correct and paint a pretty picture for the world... PC is for pussies who can't deal with the real world. So just chill it's just the internet.

Ellada said: ↑

is vortex everyone's idol? you can't form your own opinions in here?

But you see, I'm God. Didn't you get the memo? (hehe jk)

Ellada said: ↑

and i have done lots of crazy things in the rolla as well, but never claiming a drift in a FWD.
cause i know that if anyone else in here claimed that (drift in a FWD) everyone would just bash him and call B.S...but just because it's vortex everyone should agree?

Yes since I've had witnesses and people in the car when I did it... I don't gloat bullshit, there is no purpose in it... this is why people respect me and take my word for things on many subjects.

Ellada said: ↑

if he claimed that he beat a cobra while on reverse that makes it credible?

Reaching are we? C`mon --- I'd never even do such a thing and everyone knows it, see above comment and understand why people believe me. I'm a credible person.

Ellada said: ↑

why don't FWD compete in drifting competions? oh wait....hmmmmm...thats maybe cause they can't drift...is that right? or just because i claimed that, its not coming for a justifiable source...

Both? FWD don't compete in competitions because it is extremely difficult to make such a car repeat constant drifts... I'd never in a million years enter my corolla in a competition, i'd much rather drive my 69 camaro in one... why? because it *is* RWD and it is *MUCH* easier to control drifts due to the fact it is a RWD. But it doesnt mean you *CANT* in a FWD. That's the point we're trying to make here.

Ellada said: ↑

i always admit when i am wrong, and thats cause i have the balls to do so, but not in this case.

if i'm reading this right, you're saying that you don't have the balls to admit you're wrong here? correct me if i'm wrong here.

Cuztomrollaz98 · Jun 21, 2006

:Ewned: :king:

-- edit note --

one each would have been good enough, stop kissin my ass damir (lol)

e_andree · Jun 21, 2006

vortex said: ↑

It's been done to me before and I'm sure it'll be done again (*smacks Eric*) so get over it... it's the internet not the life changing experience everyone claims it is. I would throw down the comment just as quickly in a face to face conversation as I have over the internet. I don't reserve myself to be politically correct and paint a pretty picture for the world... PC is for pussies who can't deal with the real world. So just chill it's just the internet.

Right on!

But you see, I'm God. Didn't you get the memo? (hehe jk)

This is true

Reaching are we? C`mon --- I'd never even do such a thing and everyone knows it, see above comment and understand why people believe me. I'm a credible person.

Yeah, he would never claim that. He leaves that up to a few other members on these boards....lol

Both? FWD don't compete in competitions because it is extremely difficult to make such a car repeat constant drifts... I'd never in a million years enter my corolla in a competition, i'd much rather drive my 69 camaro in one... why? because it *is* RWD and it is *MUCH* easier to control drifts due to the fact it is a RWD. But it doesnt mean you *CANT* in a FWD. That's the point we're trying to make here.

Point proven!!!

if i'm reading this right, you're saying that you don't have the balls to admit you're wrong here? correct me if i'm wrong here.

Yeah....

And on Sunday, He rests!

1337Rolla · Jun 21, 2006

agreed. FWD can drift. I've done it many times in my corolla and you can feel the front wheels hop as the tail slides in a turn, very distinct feeling unlike regular driving.

Ellada · Jun 21, 2006

vortex said: ↑

and as I stated, i simply used a sentence or two from the explaination posted there since it best described the point I was trying to make.
I've done it, I have witnesses, I've even successfully chain drifted.
Nice quote, but as I stated earlier...
The official word on what drifting is from some of the people who produce and promote drifting events is the following:
Does it mention *ANYTHING* about rear wheel drive or front wheel drive here? NO!
See above quote and YES I do as it has been proven that it is not a matter for FWD or RWD it is the motion of the vehicle in a specific manuever around corners and the accomplishment of that goal.
That's vortex, not vortrex and i'm not playing that you're the bad guy. Yes, my first comment was perhaps over the top and a bit much to which I will apologize for the "foot up your ass" comment... but if you want to make a comment that is a representation of your "intelligence" that is made out of pure ignorance and hearsay, which I believe to be a completely true representation of your "intelligence" then I have every right to correct you just as publically as you made your own comment. It's been done to me before and I'm sure it'll be done again (*smacks Eric*) so get over it... it's the internet not the life changing experience everyone claims it is. I would throw down the comment just as quickly in a face to face conversation as I have over the internet. I don't reserve myself to be politically correct and paint a pretty picture for the world... PC is for pussies who can't deal with the real world. So just chill it's just the internet.
But you see, I'm God. Didn't you get the memo? (hehe jk)
Yes since I've had witnesses and people in the car when I did it... I don't gloat bullshit, there is no purpose in it... this is why people respect me and take my word for things on many subjects.
Reaching are we? C`mon --- I'd never even do such a thing and everyone knows it, see above comment and understand why people believe me. I'm a credible person.
Both? FWD don't compete in competitions because it is extremely difficult to make such a car repeat constant drifts... I'd never in a million years enter my corolla in a competition, i'd much rather drive my 69 camaro in one... why? because it *is* RWD and it is *MUCH* easier to control drifts due to the fact it is a RWD. But it doesnt mean you *CANT* in a FWD. That's the point we're trying to make here.
if i'm reading this right, you're saying that you don't have the balls to admit you're wrong here? correct me if i'm wrong here.

unbelievable responses....
i have the balls to admit i am wrong when i am proven wrong...by telling me that ass dragging a few feet is considered by a member a drifting just shows the credibility that you own...

It's been done to me before and I'm sure it'll be done again (*smacks Eric*) so get over it... it's the internet not the life changing experience everyone claims it is. I would throw down the comment just as quickly in a face to face conversation as I have over the internet. I don't reserve myself to be politically correct and paint a pretty picture for the world... PC is for pussies who can't deal with the real world. So just chill it's just the internet.

then dont get all offended about my smartass comment about pulling your pants up...

But you see, I'm God. Didn't you get the memo? (hehe jk)

see, thats the bad thing...you will never admit you are wrong...i already know your response:" i am never wrong"....sure...

Yeah, he would never claim that. He leaves that up to a few other members on these boards....lol

i really dont need anyone to back me up on this...you know i will admit when i am proven wrong...
ass bragging != drift
i even called my buddy..he was a racing teacher in a school in Canada and asked him if FWD can drift....his response: "are you stupid?"
whats your take on this? do you believe that a FWD can drift? of course you will say yes, because i bump heads with you all the time..

Both? FWD don't compete in competitions because it is extremely difficult to make such a car repeat constant drifts... I'd never in a million years enter my corolla in a competition, i'd much rather drive my 69 camaro in one... why? because it *is* RWD and it is *MUCH* easier to control drifts due to the fact it is a RWD. But it doesnt mean you *CANT* in a FWD. That's the point we're trying to make here.

again a$$ dragging, by pulling the emergency brake is not considered drifting by my standards...
according to your theory a geo metro can drift as well then...

if i'm reading this right, you're saying that you don't have the balls to admit you're wrong here? correct me if i'm wrong here.

prove me wrong and i will admit it...but guess what? you cant
whats next? a bagged corolla going mud-bugging?

http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118817&highlight=fwd drifting

PM me when you want to apologize...HAHA

DeebsTundra · Jun 21, 2006

Ellada said: ↑

again a$$ dragging, by pulling the emergency brake is not considered drifting by my standards...

So I'm confused...first it the argument was technically front wheel drive can't drift? Now...all of a sudden, you change it to e-brake is not drifting according to your standards?

Make up your mind. Your standards = FWD can't drift. Technical definition = FWD can drift, it's just more difficult.

If I didn't have such a rugged tire on my truck...I could stomp on the parking brake...lock the back end up..and have the backend chase my front around the corner. By all technical definitions that's a drift. I could also oversteer coming into a corner...romp on the gas hard enough to brake loose the rear end out...and again, by technical definition, that's a drift.

Either you need to be clear about whether we are arguing over your personal opinions or the technical definition of something...you need to admit...that you've lost this round. FYI...

I used to drift in my firebird...no-posi...no l.s.d. The feeling of going around a corner with your backend floating is exactly the same...whether your front tires are spinning, or your back tires are spinning.

e_andree · Jun 21, 2006

Ellada said: ↑

again a$$ dragging, by pulling the emergency brake is not considered drifting by my standards...

Key phrase in bold right there.

Wow...you called a racing teacher....haha.

Ellada....so youre saying AWD cars cant drift either?

vortex · Jun 21, 2006

And for the record, I've never had to use my eBrake to start a slide. I've used speed and intentional loss of traction to break free every time.

Also, I think my peers here have already taken the words from my mouth... so further comment would just be redundant at this time.

ya know... if you would just admit that its *YOUR OPINION* that FWD cannot drift (which you pretty much indirectly already have) and not sit here with empty idle threats of so called proof (which you cannot backup with any official documentation) then this can be over... then you're not admitting your wrong, but saving yourself from humiliation. NO ONE HERE IS TAKING YOUR SERIOUSLY WITH YOUR BITCHING AND MOANING ABOUT HOW RIGHT YOU ARE.

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