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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by DaCubanSkillz, Apr 5, 2006.

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    Ninety Four New Member

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    I still hold to my point. Wall Street analysts work 100 hours a week, sometimes even overnight. It's a part of the job. You know the hazards and responsibilities before you're hired.
    Glad we agree on something here.
    While I agree with you in that stopping to show ID would have eliminated the issue, you missed my point. I was saying that McKinney was called and pursued because of what she looks like. I'm not defending her getting physical with the officer at all, because that was a plain stupid idea, but I'm saying a non-black representative would have more likely been recognized and allowed to slide.
    This is an election year... I'm sure that has something to do with the fact that few people have stuck their necks out for her. In addition this is such a questionable incident, since she is obviously at fault for something and the police are only at fault in a subjective manner.
    Food for thought.
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    Fgca_rolla milky cocopuffs

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    She wasn't singled out. The officer was new, he performed his job, you don't know if the officer is racist or not so you have no base for you arguement that she was singled out because she is black.

    All that matters was she broke the rules, he did his job, and she turned it into a three ring circus and pulled the race card only to contradict herself by apologizing. How did this lady get reelected?

    I know at one point in her career the fine people of GA didn't re-elect her but some how she got back into office...ridiculous. I'm offended that this lady is allowed to work with legislation regarding my life.
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    No, thats isnt the case! She was called and pursued because she tried to slip through. The officer told her to stop THREE times. You seem to be under the impression that this doesnt happen all that much. The way she looked has nothing to do with it.

    Yeah, I guess thats it....no way it could be because people know shes in the wrong.
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    JLee TD05 3SGTE

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    So you expect this new officer to know over 500 people before he even starts working?

    ...

    Wow. Just....wow.
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    And in regards to your statement that a black cant be a racist........that would mean that you think that no black person feels that they are better than another race. Which is ludicrous.
    Your statement would also imply that the white man created racism, which is another ludicrous statement.
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    Ninety Four New Member

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    You just seem to not want to let this go. Whether white people created racism or not, they sure perfected it. That is something I'd like to see you refute.

    Whether you want to believe it or not, racism exists and is practiced everyday. The simple fact that none of you belive there is any discrimination in this case is a good example of this.

    Do cops get trained before they get on the streets? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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    THAT is another argument. You still havent backed up your statement that a black person can not be a racist.
    Haha...WHO here is refuting that????

    No, it doesnt prove anything. You just cant seem to get it through your head that this had nothing to do with race. It had to do with a person refusing to stop at a security checkpoint and a police officer doing his job by stopping said person.
    Well...yeah......there IS discrimination in regards to this case, and it came from McKinney.


    Hilarious......what does his training have ANYTHING to do with this? It seems you are really backtracking here, and your statements in this post prove absolutely nothing.
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    I would argue that white peopel perfected racism etc... slaves existed in all cultures... it existed in the indian cultures... the egyptian cultures... hell even in africa itself...

    White people just continued something that had always existed.... its not right but they didnt at all perfect it... its been in existance since the creation of man probably!

    I dont know why you think any discrimination was present in this case but you are allowed to have your own opinion and I respect that... but MOST people know it didnt involve racism.... in fact she didnt even call it racism herself until way after the fact....

    If you met this woman in real life youd probably end up disliking her because of her ways... its really simple!

    You might be president bush but unless you can prove it, it doesnt mean JACK SHIT!

    You can go to a bank everyday for 30 years but if they give you money without your id its becauxse their not doing their job...

    The officers job is simple and he was TRAINED to stop peopel not wearing ID.... I dont give a sh*t who that person is but if I was in his position... I would have stopped her or a white person or asian or hispanic its not racial....

    Also you seem to completely be ignoring her actions... she caused the problems... All he did was his job..
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    Ninety Four New Member

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    I don't know why you think I'm "backtracking" because that's pretty much out of left field.

    Anyway, you guys refuse to acknowledge the possibility of discrimination and/or racism in this case and because of that, I think you're pretty blind. I honestly don't care what sort of a person McKinney is or what her history is. This argument is about the situation, not her as a person. In any case, you obviously don't share the same view point as I do, as is the case with many political issues. I could sit here and argue with you all day, but I really have better things to do with a nice friday afternoon, like go pick up my freshly painted car.
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    And you refuse to acknowledge the possibility that the woman was just being a bitch, and using the color of her skin as a soapbox to stand on. It can go both ways. The argument may be about the situation....and since you see a black woman and a white man involved, you automatically think racism.
    And in terms of backtracking, you made a direct, pretty powerful statement, and have yet to give any evidence as to why you think thats the case.
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    As it's been told to me, the academy gives officers the tools. On-the-job training is where they are taught how to utilize those tools.

    And the simple fact that you insist that this incident involved racism is another good example, is it not? ;)
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    Hey, who wants to run a test with me? Lets get me (a white college student w/ a suburban middle class background) and an african american member together and we will both take off running through the capitol hill security check points. Yanno who is gonna get tackled ninety? I bet your ass its going to both of us. Its not racism, she's a moron and should be stripped of her position for being so ignorant and causing such a senseless situation.
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    :)

    Ninety Four, what race are you?
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    Ninety Four New Member

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    I am a member of the human race.
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    :) Right...... now I see why your are formulating the opinions about this situation that you have been
    It all makes sense now.

    Yet, if it were a black security guard stopping a white woman, of course it wouldnt be an issue of racism, right?
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    'course not. Blacks can't be racist, remember? ;)
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    Ninety Four New Member

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    Yup. You guys have figured everything out alright. If you keep this up, they just might let you work as Capitol Police!
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    Lets practice another scenerio about this racism. Lets say you and I are good friends Ninety Four. You come into where I work (Sunglass Hut) and want me to give you a discount. Its our company policy that we can't give discounts to any body. So, thus, when I refuse to give you a discount is that me being racist or me doing my job?


    **sad side note is that I was once accused of being racist for not giving some one a discount--trust me when I say race has nothing to do w/ me not giving discounts in real life**
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    JLee TD05 3SGTE

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    No interest in working in DC.
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    Lol!
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    I was all lined up to go into the Capitol Police Academy...:) Another oppurtunity came up, so I gave up my spot. I can tell you right now that if I were in his shoes, Id have done the same thing. No body up on a soapbox like you are right now will prevent me or make me think twice from doing my job.

    Its all good. We see why you have the views that you do. You catch the F/X show Black.White yet?
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    i heard about this a while back and it just blows me away. I admire the officer for what he got hired to do. Doesnt matter who you are you need proper id to go anywhere now a days in the post 9-11 era. She out of anybody should have known that being a person of some importance. I saw her say sorry but I dont think that will cut it. 9-11 changed everything and security the most. Nobody should get away with what she did
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    Youre a little late

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