rear upper strut bars?

rear upper strut bars?

is there anyone that makes these for the 98-02? if not are the front and rear upper mounts the same so it would be possible to use part of the front bar to fabricate the rear?

im sure youd get an improvement from a professional one, which im pretty sure doesnt exist

thers lots of things that could and would improve corollas in many aspects that arent made simply because of lack of demand/ money makeing potential

all it'll do is get you oohs and ahhs. you're better off getting that v-brace that goes behind the back seats. cheaper and it's better. better because it crosses the top and the bottom making it 1 piece instead of just left and right. you want left to right strenghtening, go get a floor bar.

do they make one for our cars

i always thought that by reducing chassis flex in the rear you would induce some oversteer because as the front camber changes when i turn the rear changes less then the front due to less flex reducing the contact patch. where did u get a floor bar for a 98+? did u use an ae86 bar?

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http://www.carreview.com/cat/parts/suspension/swaybars-braces/tanabe/PRD_49274_2881crx.aspx
read the honda one. maybe corollas are soo stiff in the rear that it will cause too much oversteer but i doubt it

technically they do make it for our cars. but then the catalog says it's designed for the wagon corolla. which probably means it will fit the strut mounts but the bars wont clear. im just thinking this because for wagon, the bar can just shoot right through without any bends. on ours, the mounts have to bend forward and then the bar will clear. you'll see what im talking about when you take out the back seats.

and if you want oversteer, do this.
-thinner rear tires
-stiffer swaybar
-camber away from negative

oversteer for sure. and that floor bar, i used a universal one you can find at many import parts store. it's pretty good except i have nowhere to put my toolbox now.

IMO there is no harm in having a rear strut bar. The purpose of a strut bar is to stiffen up the chassis as to reduce the flexing of its unibody construction when it is put through lateral G-forces of mid to high speed cornering. There are many FWD, RWD, and AWD platforms that has rear strut tower bars. I believe the reason why there is not a production one for the corolla sedan is because its very hard to route a bar between it's strut tower without removing many of the trim pieces and possibly the rear seats as there is one avaliable for the Wagon and Hatchback models.

I think that's why corolla S doesn't have 60/40 rear seat since it works as rear XXX bar (dunno how to call it) to reduce chassis flex in the rear.

I have found a rear lower sturt bar for my 97 but only on ebay and i was thinking about it but i dont trust ebay anymore.

Oversteer in a FWD car is scary because you can't control it with the throttle. The suspension and tires have to be tuned to give away rear grip smoothly, or I'd think you'll find yourself spinning pretty easily.

yes, but strut bars dont change over/under steer characteristics in a car. It's mearly for chassis stiffening, same as with seam welding race car chassis, or installing a roll cage (roll cage that play dual roles, i know).

Yeah you're right. I wasn't necessarily saying a rear strut bar causes oversteer, but just saying oversteer in a FWD car is hard to handle. I have a personal experience of spinning out on a curved one lane section of highway with concrete barriers on either side of the road. The reason was it was wet out and the car started to oversteer. After a certain point, there's nothing you can do in a FWD setup to bring the rear back.


Come to think of it, a rear strut bar, barring any other mods to the front end, would probably make the car understeer more. The additional stiffness in the rear chassis section would force the rear suspension to bear more of the load and thus keep both rear wheels more planted firmly in a corner. On the other hand, strut bars in the front and rear would probably provide more neutral handling.