News San Franciso Gun Ban?

Thats BS. ok..carrying it in public even tho you have a CCW permit, then fine. I can understand banning that. But WTF is this about banning them in the house too?! People collect handguns, new or old. Its a hobby for some. and then to have them surrender the guns? forget that!

Fuck that, they can pry the guns from my cold dead hands, shoulder holsters, ankle holsters and my backpack

Why do they have such a problem with the armed services tryign to recruit from the schools? I think it's great if someone wants to join the army, air force, etc. after high school. They can also help pay for most if not all of your college education. Anyone think that discouraging the army from recruiting in schoosl is stupid? I will now leave you with advice that I have found to be pretty much true: Cali is a real fucked up state. End of story

eh I dk what to think really..... I guess the law will become defenitive once they decide is wise as time goes by.... hopefully it'll bring good results

Sorry to go off topic you crazy bastard but where on earth did you get that sig? Is that for real or CGI? Did some dipshit actually throw flaming alcohol in his mouth and then breath fire? Woah.

If I was a gunowner I would just completely ignore any law that banned my ability to own one. If they want to take my gun, then I'll see them in court. Hell In my opinion gun laws need to be LESS restrictive. I think all states should allow CCW permits and that they should be easier to get.

Again, how many violent crimes do you think are committed by people with their own legally registered firearm and/or a CCW permit? Any restriction on legal gun ownership is detrimental to law abiding citizens and as far as im concerned flies in the face of the 2nd amendment. Criminals DO NOT acquire guns legally! I just dont understand how people can ignore that fact. Additionally, legal gun ownership is a safeguard and deterrent. Where is a criminal more likely to attempt an armed home invasion? Cali or Texas? Cali obviously, because he knows he wont be greeted with a shotgun in his face.

I even advocate ownership of assault weapons. Anti-gun people call that "Unneccesary" which is crap. The whole premise of the 2nd amendment as it was written was so that thet populus could protect itself from the possibility of an oppressive, tryrannical government, and if so, have the means necessary to overthrow it. That said we should be allowed ownership of high-powered weapons and not just handguns, which would be useless in that situation. If the Supreme Court can find a "Right of Privacy" through "Prenumbras and Emanations" of the Bill of Rights, then clearly I think they'd be able to find that since there are no longer true militias and the Constitution "Must evolve to fit the times", that the word militia is irrelevant to today's society and that furthermore the phrase "The People" refers to U.S. citizens.

I am shocked by this information. I didn't know that Washington and Chicago had handgun bans. Pretty soon they will ban them everywhere. You just can't take peoples guns away.

If even the capital of this nation has a gun ban, what makes this such a big deal? Besides, you dont need a gun unless you live in Oakland.

how anyone could think its not a big deal is beyond me. Its not a matter of "need" its a matter of "right" and the simple fact that they are clearly violating something that is at the core of this nations founding. Remember, we took over this country from the british basically because of citizens and their private firearms. The 2nd amendment was meant to be an assurance that citizens would be able to do the same in the future if the need ever arose.

Its amazing to me the laws that so many people allow to be passed because they don't look at the big picture of what it means for both their current and future freedoms. Some of the laws passed in Naziland (California) just scare me. Its worrisome when people arent involved and let government do as they please because lets face it, government will take and take from us if we never voice any opposition.

uhhh.. I'm not even goina bother argueing the 2nd amendment *cough*Right to form miatias in the absence of a standing army*cough*

If anything California or San Francisco to be more percise is following the footsteps of our very own nation's capital WASHINGTON DC which has a gun ban for over 25yrs.

Something tells me that I need to watch the news way the hell more often cause I'm lost in a lot of stuff here lol

you serious? I thought the most violent states were like California, Florida and stuff but damn who would've thought DC would be. What's the murder rating at DC?

those who will be using guns for crimes will still be able to get em

however, they'll think twice when the person who the crime is against has one as well and they're willing to use it in self defense.

i call for a ban on knives too.... they can kill people.

a ban on automobiles as well, they kill people also. lots of people.

but in all seriousness they arent concerned with death and murder and blah blah blah.... they couldnt care less, because if they were worried about people dying then cigarettes and fast food would be OUTLAWED!!! all the government is trying to do is excercise its evergrowing stranglehold on the nation, and to further its creation of a pussy, impotent, christian society.

very true dude there will always be a black market ALWAYS no matter what illegal stuff will be acquired.

Exactly! Look at freakin Australia. They banned guns and what happened? No decrease in violent crimes, but they had an exponential increase in crimes commited with swords, yes SWORDS. Like you said the last thing we need is more government control of our lives. You dont want anarchy, but too much control by government can also be the downfall of a society.

The government might say whats legal and whats not legal but I honestly don't know too many people that abide by the law 100%. The only laws that work are the ones that rationally make sense thoughout the majority of people (including the bad and the good guys). If this doesn't make sense its because I'm on a heavy dose of codine right now and I'm really woozzy.

My mother used to tell me growing up, "When you take away one person's rights, no matter how small it may seem, it sets a legal precidence to do it again and again to others."

GoTarheels is correct, its not a matter of need, its a matter of right. Period. No one should EVER be able to take it away. I don't own a gun, and I think I propbably wouldn't, BUT its my RIGHT to choose. Watch other places follow suit...

This one is a dangerous right to mess with...

Preach on Paolino! I'm with you.

maybe they should issue guns to every citizen.

wonder how thatll work out

Heh, thanks man.

Think about it if they ban guns for citizens, what makes you think the bad guys won't still be able to get them?