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First, it is Ninety Four and I, and you make fun of Geroge Bush for not being able to put a sentence together. Damn Hypocrit.

Second, What the hell are you talking about. Both of you pulled the "I'm taking my ball and going home!" routine and returned now with the same tired arguments.

This only continues you to prove your ignorance. You completely ignore the definition of WMD because it doesn't benefit you. Just like Clinton and the word "is".

First, What about the Mustard Gas?

Second, there is a difference between NONE, and a little. It has been proved that some, no matter how little, were found.

Do you think the people made it in their basement? If so then stop complaining that they aren;t doing anything wrong. But to be honest, I doubt they made it, it had to come from somewhere, it didn't just appear magically. Ever hear the saying "Where there is smoke, there is fire."

Third, I'm sorry, I thought I posted an article about the massive stockpile of sarin gas they found buried in the desert. They could never tie the weapons to Sadaam because the government kept the argument of "We don't know how it got there." So it never became big news.

WMDs were found, no nuclear weapons were found. Nuclear Weapons are not the only type of WMD, your ignoring that point. I'm not denying that nuclear weapons weren't found. I will deny that no WMD's were found. The proof is right there. How can you say I am not compromising? I straight up admitted that, and have never claimed that any Nuclear Weapons were found, because they weren't. WMD's were though.

Yup, that was my last straw, which is precisely why my post continued on after that.

I would agree about that. It isn;t something to joke about. But can you explain how this has anything to do with WMDs in Iraq.

Please, again, explain how that is a personal attack. A personal attack would be attack a trait of a person, or something that person has done. I impled that it is emabrassing that people are willing to use the number of people that agree with them as their justification. Hitler had how many followers? Did that make him right? Of course not, the number of people who approve or disapprove doesn't mean anything. Strength is defined in numbers, right and wrong aren't.

Once again, thank you for proving my point. "people that made the wrong decision", just because they don't agree with you, they are wrong, not a single person in this thread has ever said you were wrong for voting against him if you did so. if I missed it and someone did, then quite frankly, they crossed the line. This statement is not only 100% ignorant, but completely disrespectful. I sincerely hope you didn't mean it the way it was typed.

Please explain.

An alarm isn't going to stop me from shooting someone in the face. Just like a massive alarm isn't going to stop people from dying. Other than confronting an enemy in their own terrority and stoping it before it happens, all we can do here is try and clean up and move on when its done, by the time an alarm would go off it would be too late. Party due to the ever growing size of the government. Which I will say is at least in part, Bush's fault. In the sense that conservatives tend to believe the government should be as small as possible while still 100% functional, Bush is a very liberal pesident.

First, there is no such thing as "restoring freedom" to Iraq, it is bringing freedom to Iraq.

Second, No, I'm not, I've said that several times. It is what I will believe until proof is given to me that it wasn't for freedom, at which time, my support for the pesident will slip as well. It's all in your personality, you take the pessimistic side of it was for oil on this issue, which is fine, I take an optomistic side saying it wasn't, which is fine. Both could be a wrong assumption and both could be a dangerous assumption, only time will tell that.

Damn, I was hoping you might actually offer a retort to my post. Guess not. If you go and read it you will see that Saddam DID have WMD's throughout the 1980's and 1990's. That is INDISPUTABLE FACT. As I said before there were stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons that his government never officially accounted for after the 1991 Gulf War and resulting UN resolution. BTW that resolution stated that Saddam had to account for, document, and destroy ALL of his weapons. In case you were confused, chemical and biological weapons ARE classified as WMD's. (I.E. Sarin gas) The same resolution also required that he cease all weapons research and FULLY cooperate with inspectors, opening everything to thorough inspection. He DID NOT do this. Instead he kicked out inspectors alltogether in 1998, and was denying access before that. Common sense, if you abided by the resolution and destroyed everything, why not allow inspections. You dont actively thwart inspectors efforts unless you have something to hide. And then kick them out alltogether. In this case, hmmm I wonder what it could have been? the WEAPONS he wasn't supposed to have maybe?

Im SURE Saddam had intricate ways of hiding everything, and when he realized "OH SHIT they're actually coming, he hid, sold, and destroyed it. Once again common sense. He had it, we know he did, that is FACT. Shit like that doesn't just vanish into thin air. Hell he could have given/sold the weapons to neighboring countries for all we know.


By the way, that 1991 resolution. He violated it 13 times. Every year since it was passed. It was a joke to him. He knew all the UN would say is "OH thats bad, you're not complying" and then maybe throw some sanctions on the country that hurt the people but didnt do a think to his regime. Its a key problem with anything brought down by the UN. ENFORCEMENT. I don't see how anyone can tell me they think Saddam said "I'm getting rid of all my weapons because the UN said so."

In my view, the U.S. did something admirable in taking out Saddam. They provided much needed enforcement. The world changed after 9/11, threats became more real. As a result we had REAL reactions to them. Yeah, your wonderful Bill Clinton If theres anyone to blame for our current situation its him! Under him the CIA, FBI and every other intelligence agency was horribly passive, ignored threats and allowed the current terror networks to grow and plan completely unchecked. If you'd like I can explain that and the origins of anti- US terrorism further for you. I know one thing for sure, this shit DID NOT start with Bush.

As if your posts haven't been sarcastic, cynical, attacking? You were the one that actually brought the personal attacks into this thread, so call me an asshole all you want. All I've been trying to do this thread is get people to see my point of view, but I've been met personal criticism and evasive arguments. If you're going to argue with someone, address the facts on the table instead of coming up with personal opinions.

Dude, who really cares. Honestly, do you? I doubt it. When someone declares themselves to be "OWNING" the thread, and another uses the "I'm not going to respond to you, because your an idiot." argument when in doing so, they responded, it makes a statement.

None of our post before this had the repsonse, "I won't reply, because your an idiot." or "I won't respond because it is a personal attack." We responded to their points, then said we didn't appreciate the personal attacks. Now Ninety Four creates an entirely new thread essentially dedicated to how stupid we are. He says he was just trying to get people to see his POV, as if we didn't do the same? But in doing so, somewhere we are different and now we are stupid.

But in the end it is ok. because they seem to believe that more people on one side proves that side to be right, well two of them are arguing, 3 of us are. We must be right since there are 3 of us. That is by their own logic.

sorry for having a life during the weekend and not responding to any of the above posts

i did thought skim through them really quick and i really dont have much to say.

it was a good argument BUT

"And Ive brought in factual evidence, but I dont base my views and opinions solely on what I read on the internet and see in the news like some people."

you are referring to me, but honestly i brought facts at the table, and defended them. You are forming your opinion based on what you think and what you read. like me.

and dont say "some people". If you dont have the balls to call me out, then dont try.

http://www.innocentenglish.com/

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1755573

i didnt get a chance to hear his speech today. But i will during the weekend (or some pieces of it)

http://www.innocentenglish.com/

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Top 10 Funniest Bushisms of All Time
The Top Ten Funniest (and Saddest) Mistakes, Misstatements, Bloopers and Blunders By President George W. Bush (so far...)
1. "I am here to make an announcement that this Thursday, ticket counters and airplanes will fly out of Ronald Reagan Airport." —Washington, D.C., Oct. 3, 2001

2. "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004

3. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

4. "There's no doubt in my mind that we should allow the world worst leaders to hold America hostage, to threaten our peace, to threaten our friends and allies with the world's worst weapons." —South Bend, Indiana, Sept. 5, 2002.

5. "There's an old...saying in Tennessee...I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee that says Fool me once...(3 second pause)... Shame on...(4 second pause)...Shame on you....(6 second pause)...Fool me...Can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tennessee, Sept. 17, 2002.

6. "See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction." —Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003

7. "The ambassador and the general were briefing me on the -- the vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice." —Washington, D.C., Oct. 27, 2003.

8 "I'm looking forward to a good night's sleep on the soil of a friend." —on visiting Denmark, Washington D.C., June 29, 2005

9. "Wow! Brazil is big." after being shown a map of Brazil by Brazilian president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Brasilia, Brazil, Nov. 6, 2005

10. A TIE BETWEEN:
"Rarely is the question asked, 'Is our children learning'?"
—Florence, S.C. Jan 11 2000
"The illiteracy level of our children are appalling." —Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 20004

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......... and the 2nd link doesn't work for me either, I only could get the first one.

ummm by the way I was just putting up what was up on that site since you couldn't see it. I don't have anything to say against bush, I'm more neutral in this topic.